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4 minutes ago, grannyknot said:

Any Canadian and some northern US owners.

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Thanks grannyknot , and Alan .

The test drive late 1969 in the US and Canada , apparently the two test cars did not have the function because they are the earliest car ,  maybe they reported back to engineers in Japan  then it was added ? Or how about other Nissan SU carburetors cars , did they have the same function corresponding with S30’s update ?

Kats

 

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I always liked the Factory5 Supercar. I could consider doing one of those if I ever got caught up on projects 🤣

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On 12/1/2018 at 3:16 PM, HS30-H said:

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So it appears switzerland was classified as a "cold area".
Both of my cars (built in late 1971) came with the additional flap and hose, as seen in this quite bad picture (the only useful one i found, right now), from before i took everything apart 🙂
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I do not think the summer/winter flapper is a cold area option. Every car in North America has one of these after 1971. And I would guess most had it on the 71 model as well.

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I agree, mine was bought in the Deep South from a dealership in Huntsville Alabama. 

After adding a header I lost the heat riser and now it pulls air from the bottom hole no matter the flap setting.  Runs great SUMMER/WINTER both.

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AU market 240z's never had it, we got the "early style" airbox for all years 70-73.

73 AU market engine bay here.

https://www.viczcar.com/forum/gallery/image/6314-no-caption/

You can tell it's a 73 because of the choke cable bracket on the far right and the throttle linkage in the middle of later SU's has an extra safety bracket.

See more images of car here.

https://www.viczcar.com/forum/profile/101180-specialp3/?tab=node_gallery_gallery

We didn't get the airpump and all that gear until 1974 with the introduction of the 260z in Australia and flat top carbs etc..We got round tops all the way until the 240z finishes in 1973.

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Thank you everyone,  I was going to ask “ how about Hawaiian  240Z ? “ 

As we have got these reports so far , US and Canada received the Summer/ Winter air intake for all states . 

Swiss have it , thank you !  How about Sweden , Finland or other Europe model ?

Japan , we have a lot of snow in winter in northern area , but we do not have the Summer/ Winter air intake .

I guess Nissan  engineers imagined “ Japanese customers usually do not drive a personal sports car like a Z in a  highway cruising with heavy snow . But foreigners would do , they traveled long , long distance that is usual thing for them “ 

I think sports car was very special back in 1960- 1970s in Japan .  Fairlady-Z was not for everyone’s car . But looking at overseas especially in the US , Datsun 240Z was so popular , and the way of driving the car was very different,  Nissan engineers might not want to take a risk of the problem, even it costed more money to put the air intake for all the cars of US and Canada .

I have one more question about an air cleaner box , Dec 1972 ? A new air cleaner box ( larger one ) applied for the US and Canada , it was also applied to Fairlady Z models ( except Z432  ) . Does it have the Summer/ Winter flap ?  

And is that larger air cleaner  applied to any other destination ?

Kats

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1 hour ago, kats said:

As we have got these reports so far , US and Canada received the Summer/ Winter air intake for all states . 

Kats. We have provinces in Canada, not states. And there is no flapper on the larger 73 air box.

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16 minutes ago, 240dkw said:

Kats. We have provinces in Canada, not states. And there is not flapper on the larger 73 air box.

Thank you, I made a mistake. “ Provinces” in Canada , now I have leaned!

And the later larger air cleaner does not have the flap, is that capable for the severe winter condition ? It might have updated function in it , might not it ?

Kats

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On 12/2/2018 at 2:45 AM, 240260280 said:

I have studied “ carburetor icing “ when I was a pilot  trainee flying Beach Bonanza A36 then Baron B58 . Icing condition is more familiar with me for the wing icing. 

The interpreter is great but weird sometimes. It is like my writing in English here , sorry 😓

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20 hours ago, kats said:

And the later larger air cleaner does not have the flap, is that capable for the severe winter condition ? It might have updated function in it , might not it

I had to look it up, but yes the updated function is called the ATC or automatic temperature control. Page TE-28 in the service manual. They moved the flap from the snorkel to controlling the hot air from the heat riser on the bottom of the air cleaner.

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Thanks 240dkw , that is what I expected.

I will look up the FSM .

Kats

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Kats, I was just looking at the photos you posted in your new album and it reminded me of a question I've always wanted to ask,  The front mounted fender mirrors on your 432 and Fairlady,  are they as functional as door mounted mirrors?  The fender mirrors without a doubt look very cool but are they as useful as conventional side mirrors for seeing traffic behind you?

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Thanks grannyknot !  And that is a good question, fender mirror is easy because you do not have to move your head to check the mirror, you just slide your eye point to the fender mirrors. But not easy to adjust the mirrors, the best way is to have your assistant for your best rear view .

And the fender mirrors can show the rear view relatively smaller than the door mirror I think .

Kats

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@kats

You made a comment earlier, lamenting the poor translations and maybe your lack of proper English grammar. I have always enjoyed your contributions here even if they run through a translator! Don't ever feel badly for not having perfect English grammar. There are many people that have grown up with English as their primary language and still don't use proper grammar, myself included. I am quite confident your English is better than my Japanese! LOL

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Thanks Patcon ! Always I thank you all , here is my best English school for me , because it is " free " :love: 

Kats

 

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Thanks Cliff ! Thanks Blue , I think I don’t get it correctl😅y but , here are pictures.

This morning I drove my Z432 to an airport.

Kats

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I found one thing that inferior to the door mirror is , I can’t see nore enjoy the beautiful rear quarter body lines and the C pillar emblem , if you have these fender mirrors.

Kats

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