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The Z432 has arrived well before the convention, it makes people

prepare easier for this big trip.

2 weeks STBY on the loading yard,2 weeks on the Pacific oacean,

4 days to get out the LA yard.

The car was so dirty, must be in a plenty salty rain and air.

I did not want my car to be tied down using exsisting tow hook

because generally speaking, it is not strong enough if a car is pulled abruptly.

So I taped over the hook with 'do not use' caution.

The car is tied down using its wheels and tie rods,it is good.

Kats

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The Z432 has arrived well before the convention, it makes people

prepare easier for this big trip.

2 weeks STBY on the loading yard,2 weeks on the Pacific oacean,

4 days to get out the LA yard.

The car was so dirty, must be in a plenty salty rain and air.

I did not want my car to be tied down using exsisting tow hook

because generally speaking, it is not strong enough if a car is pulled abruptly.

So I taped over the hook with 'do not use' caution.

The car is tied down using its wheels and tie rods,it is good.

Kats

Kats, We are so excited to see your car sitting next to the Phantom in front of the host hotel. If only Johnnie would have allowed Mr K's car to be part of this. We tried get it but she is not budging on not bringing it. This convention is going to be the most inclusive ZCON ever; I hope we can get you car out to Qualcomm Stadium for the People's Choice show on August 9th.

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Hi Montezuma,

I can not wait to see all of yoy and show my car

to everyone.

Thank you for the arrangement of people's choice car,

let me think of it, I have not decided yet to bring the car

to the stadium.

I will make up my mind befor the convention.

Talk about later,

Kats

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Hi,

At the ZCON 2014, I demonstrated staring engine

and 8 track stereo system in front of people.

I regret the engine was not tuned properly.

I knew I had to do work these things, but I could not have a time to do.

#1 High OAT under the sun shine in summer of San Diego.

#2 Octan of fuel is slightly lower than Japan

Before leaving Japan, it was early Jun. The mixture was very good in Japan.This means I needed to adjust mixture for hot WX.

And I always fill up 'High Octan' in Japan.The ignition timing was adjusted for High Octan and it was nice.

However 'premium' in the US seems slightly lower octan than Japan,I noticed this in

the past when I brought my 240Z to the convention 2000 & 2004.

People saw my Z432 did smoke.

If the engine was tuned properly,and it was warmed up,smoke would be less.

BTW, this S20 engine was designed with relatively wider gap

between piston rings and a cylinder comparing other engines

like L-24 e.t.c.

It eats a lot of oil, 1000km/0.8L for my Z432.

1969 'Car Graffic' new car test reported Skyline GTR ate 1000km/1.8~2.0L.

Nowadays wellknown S20 rebuilt shop (only 3 or 4 shops are true rebuilder) can do

almost non-oil decrease engine if you want.

8 track system, I played 'Born to Run' and FM radio, it worked well !

Kats

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Kats,

Thank you so much for bringing your 432 to the show in San Diego, and much apologizes for the poor quality gas in California. It is no where near as good as the gas in Japan ;-)

I must say your 432 was amazing by the way! Hope to see you here in sunny Cali again some day soon.

Eric

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Hi Mike

I have the Hitachi wide band that you have. The 8 track player,leather case,manual, plus 2 speakers . I'm missing the volume adjustment knob.Everything was working when I removed it from my 72 510. Also have some 8 tracks.

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I did not realize that the Z432 was your car. I was at the show with my car (bright, BRIGHT orange 240z with the LS1) but spent a good 20 minutes just walking around your car. I was around when you started it up and the sound was musical.

You have a very beautiful car. Thank you for sharing it with us.

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Thank you ktm , I think you were at People's choice car show,were not you?

LS 1 with very bright orange, I think I saw it.

Probably you noticed when looking at my car, bad points of S20 engine.

S20 is a very heavy, and mounted very high.Yes Z432 has stiffer springs,and very light magnesium wheels, and aluminum radiator.

But I am not happy about this handling ability.

On the other hand,my blue 240Z handles very light and quick.

My orange 240Z has a nice airconditioning, lots of heavy mecanism are installed in front, so it does not handle as good as my blue 240Z.

LS1, it is a good handling machine, lower mount and short longitudinal dimention.

bartsscooterservice,

ethanol, I did not know that is a reason, thank you.

Mike B, thank you for bringing your NOS FM pack and assorted items.

We made it, your export version created woderful tuning and we listened clear

FM radio!

Kats

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Yes, I was at the People's Choice on Saturday. It was a rather warm day for San Diego. Regardless if the engine sits higher, it is a thing of beauty to look at.

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So, if you want a happy driving with S20 motor, that is going to be definitely Z432-R.

FRP bonnet, no-air cleaner box, thin metal of wings,

more stiffer springs, quick arms make this car fan to drive.

Mr.Uemura said in his book, 'As it turned out,Z432 became a car with a lot of toppings'

I think Nissan executives wanted everything what they have on their new sports car to appeal people,and other manufactures.

But they did not sell Z432 abroad, that might be another story.

In the book,I can not believe that even Z432 could have put 4 speed.

The sales department claimed 5 speed costed a lot, and its shift feeling was not prefferable in some people,they wondered they would have complains from the customers 'does not much price and shift feeling'.

However Mr.Uemura insisted the sales department

'We only have this 5speed(porche synclo) , and I love this 5 speed.

Please do not make this car feel ashamed, other manufacturs such as Toyota ,Mazda put 5 speed for their sports cars'.

Kats

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Kats you could ask major fuel companies in Japan if they allready blend ethanol in the regular gasoline. I asked Shell here, and in their letter they confirm it's allready 5.7% in regular gasoline and in the near future it will be 10%. This 10% or E10 will give classic car owners like us with carburetors and fuel system not designed for ethanol a new problem..

My car can run on the " E5 " now, but E10 would not be possible to big chance of damage to the carburetors and fuel system.

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Kats you could ask major fuel companies in Japan if they allready blend ethanol in the regular gasoline. I asked Shell here, and in their letter they confirm it's allready 5.7% in regular gasoline and in the near future it will be 10%. This 10% or E10 will give classic car owners like us with carburetors and fuel system not designed for ethanol a new problem..

My car can run on the " E5 " now, but E10 would not be possible to big chance of damage to the carburetors and fuel system.

FWIW,

About 99.9% of California gas stations sell only E10 gasohol. There are a handful of stations in the state that still sell non-ethanol blended gasoline...

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Hi Kats, I saw the Z432 has this nifty coolant recovery system and bracket. Don't see anything in my 240Z engine manual about coolant recovery. Most of the Z cars I see have something, from aftermarket plastic to chrome or beer can. It seems essential, at least in the desert. This one looks right, but I'm guessing it's difficult or impossible to find.

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That is "Tank Assembly - Reservoir" 21510-E4201. My notes say that you may find it as E6300, but I don't remember what that was all about. The bracket is 21515-E4200 and E4201. The parts book I have shows it specifically for the S20 engine.

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Kats, it looks like an autopsy investigation was done on your car! LOL I sadly could not make it but I am enjoying these photos!!!

Thanks for "bringing the Z to North America" again! I know someone else who did this in 1969 :)

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Florida recently passed laws that allow all Florida Gas Stations to sell Ethanol Free gasoline - removing the former law that required them to sell E10. Too much damage to consumer cars and other vehicles {boats} and too much Food being used for fuel.

There are more gas stations selling Ethanol Free gasoline at this point - but they are not yet plentiful. They also charge more for ethanol free - but you get better mileage with it as well.

Now if more States could follow suit.

FWIW,

Carl

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I have noticed in Oregon that some stations sell their premium as non ethanol. In Idaho I always burn non ethanol but I have to go to one of a few stations to get it.

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Thank you everybody,

I did not know about ethanol in fuel.

In Japan ,some gas stations are cheating, they sell their 'brended' high octan fuel.(not so good quality)

But it is not violation of law as long as they keep mix ratio below the regulation.

Kats

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Hi Stanley,

Yes this is my favorite feature of Z432.

If you review some years back in this thread,you see the bottle

had a simple plastic cap without an metal adapter.

When the car was in restolation, the car got NOS parts,a set of a bottle and a bracket.

But it is for some mid 1970 or later type.

Difference between early and later is the cap and the adapter.

I desperately wanted an earliest one which is a metal adapter between the bottle

and a metal cap , the metal cap has a push button to release a pressure.

Also the car was missing a bracket for a hose from a radiator.

I finaly found the cap and the adapter, both are exactly shared with

Nissan Gloria,Cedric.

And the hose bracket was crafted by Ando-san .

They are really hard to find, I want them for my 240Zs too.

Kats

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Hi Kats, I saw the Z432 has this nifty coolant recovery system and bracket. Don't see anything in my 240Z engine manual about coolant recovery. Most of the Z cars I see have something, from aftermarket plastic to chrome or beer can. It seems essential, at least in the desert. This one looks right, but I'm guessing it's difficult or impossible to find.

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Hi,

I just want to show this, the location

of the transistor ignitor box.

Skyline GTR has the box near the radiator,

it is not good idea because it is very easy to

have water and moisture.

Many GTR owners have the problem then they modify entire ignition system and its location.

And the horn relay,Passing light relay avobe the emergency frasher.

The gold box is an oscillator.

Kats

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I recently got information from Shell ( translated with Google ) :

This is a fairly complex matter. It is true that there is a European law that ALL oil companies required the ENTIRE EU to dose. 5.75% biofuels in petrol and diesel

Exceptions are possible in so-called "premium" fuels, and that the achievement of a certain quota. In those regulations

Very simple and short-by-the-curve you can say that you can get as long as the sales share of the "regular" fuel is high enough. Exception for premium fuels

In the Benelux and DACH (Germany-Austria-Switzerland) our market share and volume sufficient to apply the Vpower this measure so that's why it is biovrij in those countries.

In France, however, we do not make the quota, and the bio Vpower account.

Met vriendelijke groeten, Bien à vous, kind regards

Dany Vlaminck

Technical Information Centre (TIC) BeNeFrUxSA

Belgian Shell S.A.

Arnaud Fraiteurlaan 15-23

1050 Brussels

RPR/RPM 0403.048.262

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Dear,

Shell V-Power is a gasoline fuel which does not contain ethanol in its composition, but on the other hand, there is also possible to use the Shell Unleaded 95 brandtof it contains a maximum of 5% of ethanol.

According to instructions below, this fuel with a maximum of 5% of ethanol is also acceptable for your classic car.

Be careful with the oldtimer, the cleaning characteristics of a V-Power would perhaps be too aggressive for internal closures of classic motorcycles.

You can find the website of Shell in the Dutch where are the Shell stations that supply this fuel.

With Kind Regards.

Met vriendelijke groeten, bien à vous, kind regards

Renaud Hayet.

Shell Lubricants Technical Information Centre (TIC) BeNeFrux & Switzerland (Fr)

S.A. Belgian Shell N.V.

Arnaud Fraiteurlaan 15-23, 1050 Brussels, Belgium

RPR/RPM 0403.048.262

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Hi, my Z432 came back home safely in late September. I am very happy the car had no scratch and no mechanical damage.

 

After receaving my car I took my car to the photo studio right away. My Z432 wil be on a top cover "Nostalgic Hero" coming on Mar. 1st.

 

I recently did small things that I was not able to finish before the ZCON. They are,

 

#1 replacing door weather strips to E4100, I had later ones which I did not like the shape.

#2 replacing correct old style butterfly wing bolt for the air cleaner box in front of the radiator.Looks like  "micky mouse"

#3 organize battery cables correctly using clips on the fire wall.

#4 added vinyl tubes for the cowl top screws like factory instaled to prevent damge the cables and short circuit.

#5 added rubber pieces on the top edge of the quater glasses.My car was missing them when I bought.

#6 replacing exhaust bolts and nuts to S20 correct ones. 

#7 I found old licence plate bolts used in Japan back in 60's and 70's.They were in the tool box and could be used for my    father's  car when I was a kid.

#8 Changed pilot jets from 55 to 57.5 this gives good torque and feelings. Now 180/135/57.5 for my Mikuni 40.

 

I should have done these before the ZCON!

 

Kats

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