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It would be fun to put these on my series 1 car. I put in 77 seats so I can have the fold forward option and much easier to adjust the recline. I don't think anybody that goes to car shows here in Utah would even know the seats or corner protectors weren't correct.IMG_20180615_174650371_HDR.jpg

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8 hours ago, nix240z said:

first set of seat guard samples....

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Hi Steve , we have been waiting this so long time, I buy two sets of them !! Great work !!

Kats

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How about mounting screws and the special washers? If they come with the guards, would be nice.

Kats

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You show two different hardware sets, Kats.  Which one do you think is most correct?  Black screws or plated screws?

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Sets will be available after the first of the year at a cost of $200 per set plus shipping. 

I have spent a lot of  time and money on this project.

I don't have the original screws or washers that came with the seat covers. I will be able to figure out the washer size and I will need some measurements of screw.

I know they will fit the early style 70-71 seats and you will need to drill your own holes in the seat frame.

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You show two different hardware sets, Kats.  Which one do you think is most correct?  Black screws or plated screws?
I'll have to dig mine out but I think all mine were silver not black. The washers could have been cad plated but I don't think so.

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update: I located some thicker style washers and will recheck screw size when I get the washers. 

The washer is a m5 and looking at Kats pictures and the size of the seat guard holes, the screw looks like a #8 x 3/4. I used a 9/64 drill bit for the new holes.

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Hi Chris! Good question, Mike is correct, 

The balck seat doesn’t have original , I just bought the screws and the washers in my town ( like a home depo ) . My blue seat has the originals, but the washer was plated , I like gold finish but it is not the original finish.

Here is an answer, you can see originals . The two really bad shape early seats have a silver screw and a silver washer. The detail can tell you they are not obtainable nowadays, the shape of the head of the screw is something different, and the washer looks a little bit thicker than currently available at a home depo .

And in March or April 1971 ? A set of new seat belts and hook were applied,I guess that time was a change of the seat too , the seat bottom would have lost the guards and , the seat back lost the hook which transferred to the body side interior trim .

And I assume the change of the seat back would be made at this point ,  “ fat seat back “ replaced by “ narrow ( slim ) seat back “ .

It is going to be interesting that everyone look into the seat bottom frame  , if you find the holes for the guard , is it March or April 1971 or later ? 

By the way , an early seat back has a hole for the seat belt hook , the hole can be seen both side right and left for the efficiency of the production. I will check my seat bottom frame if it has holes for the guard both left and right.

Kats

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Kats and nix240z annd others,

What type of material (canvas, linen, duck cloth, etc.) was used for the light green material? This material appears in the photos that accompanies the the three (3) rubber straps.

Thanks,

Keith

 

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15 hours ago, zed2 said:

Kats and nix240z annd others,

What type of material (canvas, linen, duck cloth, etc.) was used for the light green material? This material appears in the photos that accompanies the the three (3) rubber straps.

Thanks,

Keith

 

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I visited the local fabric shop and purchased some ribbon that was close in width and color.

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Hi Keith , I was going to ask same thing to Steve  as I also want the light green cloth for my seat restoration . Great work Steve !

Here is a picture of the screws and washers for the plastic guard, they look special for me .

Kats

 

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I will have my blue seats re- trimed again , Mr. Sudo offered me that making my blue seats fat seat back , now they are appeared in slim type . Using an extra blue vinyl which he gave me is going to be wonderful. 

I think so too , my 03/70 car should  have a fat seat back. At that time ( in 2003 ) Mr.Sudo was not aware that because he just got an order from a car shop “ restoration of blue Datsun 240Zseats “ without knowing it is going to be installed for 03/70 car .

The black ones are  recently restored for my 01/70 Z432 , fat seat back . 

Kats

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2 hours ago, kats said:

Hi Keith , I was going to ask same thing to Steve  as I also want the light green cloth for my seat restoration . Great work Steve !

Here is a picture of the screws and washers for the plastic guard, they look special for me .

Kats

 

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2 hours ago, kats said:

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Thanks Kats for pictures. I believe the washer in a M5 thick washer and a M5x16mm self tapping screw as seen in my pictures.

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if you are interested in a set of seat guards please send me a email at orders@240zrubberparts.com . I am trying to get a count before I put the reproduction sets up for sale on the website.  .

 I know they are not cheap and I was reluctant to take on this project because of the price.   I have invested a lot of time and money on this project.

sets are $200 plus $16.25 shipping USPS tracking and $200 insurance medium flat rate box.  

outside the country  shipping $72 USPS tracking and $200 insurance medium flat rate box.

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Steve , I sent a message.I buy two sets of the guards. Thanks !

Kats

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On 1/3/2019 at 8:57 PM, kats said:

Hi Keith , I was going to ask same thing to Steve  as I also want the light green cloth for my seat restoration . Great work Steve !

Here is a picture of the screws and washers for the plastic guard, they look special for me .

Kats

 

Kats,

I have obtained a sample of a light blue/green cloth.  Do you still have the original cloth on your seat bottoms to confirm the color match?  (If so, I would mail you a small sample for verification purposes.)

Keith

 

 

 

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Hi Keith, my blue 240Z has the cloth , but the car is in a museum now so I can’t show you the one right now . Looks you found the one close to the original, I am optimistic about this issue as I will be able to find some nice one , or if it is impossible, I am OK to use closer material for the band .

Kats

 

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I found an interesting thing , the earliest seat sliding control lever looked like this , the “ S “ curve is located here , it is pretty forward than the later one . I think this early lever might be seen in up to Jan or Feb 1970 . How about yours ?

And I confirmed the holes for the plastic guards , the holes are set both sides  of the frame . So workers at the factory did not have to pay attention which is left seat or right seat .

( the seat in the pictures is 01/70 Z432, not original bands and not original color for the lever and the frame ) 

Kats

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if you contacted me about the seat guards via email please check your email and spam folder also.

Sometimes my emails go to spam folders.

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