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HLS30-000105 is now for sale on Ebay:

  http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Datsun-240z-Series-1-/292151078816?hash=item44058fafa0:g:dCsAAOSwFqNZQM9-&vxp=mtr

Has 49 bids to $15,000 within 4 hours after being listed.

It was listed on CL and within a short time after I posted on here the listing was taken down.

I should ask the guy for a finder's fee.

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Im not sure I get the whole "low vin" thing.  If I were shopping for a 240, I would take good factory sheet metal over a low vin any day.  I know I am wrong though because everyone wants a low vin.  I'm wrong.  Right? :) 

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24 minutes ago, 87mj said:

Im not sure I get the whole "low vin" thing.  If I were shopping for a 240, I would take good factory sheet metal over a low vin any day.  I know I am wrong though because everyone wants a low vin.  I'm wrong.  Right? :) 

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NOT WRONG! I would take good sheet metal and a complete car as well. The low VIN'S typically need more work or have had lots of work done.

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You can tell that the guy who got it is just a car guy who got lucky.  A collector wouldn't run 40 year old rust and grime through the engine just to hear the engine noise.  Cringeworthy...

 

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20 minutes ago, 87mj said:

Im not sure I get the whole "low vin" thing.  If I were shopping for a 240, I would take good factory sheet metal over a low vin any day.  I know I am wrong though because everyone wants a low vin.  I'm wrong.  Right? :) 

It's kind of like a "mine is bigger than yours" mind game and is only meaningful to those who play the game.  A lower VIN is only more valuable if you think it is.   And the owner of a low VIN is only as important as he and the other players think he is.  Easy!:)

Dennis

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Zed Head said:

It has no title - "it is sold with a notorized bill of sale."

I noticed that, too.  It does say "Clear Title? in the description, however.

Dennis

 

 

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:huh: some of these LOW VIN rigs are getting ridiculous on the asking price. The buyer will need 15K or more to get it presentable again. Let's all try to be just a little more realistic here

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I think that engine has had some work. It's much too clean and it started too quickly to have been brought into the shop and just hooked up to gas and a battery and be fired right up. The carbs seem too clean to not have been worked on.

There are reasons why someone might want an early car. Probably some people on here can understand, since it is CLASICZCARS.com after all, and you can't get much more classic than a Z car with VIN 000105 that was built in 1969.

1) Anyway, one reason is that the earliest 1970 cars were different in about 30 different ways from the later 1970 cars. And now a lot of those very early parts are being accurately reproduced, so it's not impossible to get an early car back to what it was.

2) The earliest cars bring the most money when restored well, meaning they can be saved instead of ignored or crushed because restoring one would be a losing proposition.

3) Having owned some, and restoring one now, I like the early versions of many different cars. They were often the most basic, and not affected by "marketing" or "comfort' features that sometimeds watered them down.

But, hey, anyone with an early Z car that's not in bad shape and not too expensive, just let me know and I'll take it off your hands.

 

 

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16 minutes ago, psdenno said:

I noticed that, too.  It does say "Clear Title? in the description, however.

I noticed both of those too. Does Nevada title old cars?

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Makes me feel sleazy if they're actually hiding but it is the internet age.  Did you hear about that Congressman who posted a screen shot of something important to his constituents but forgot to crop out the porn site links at the top...

Maybe it really was found in a barn  The youtube video is from Harmon Classics.  Apparently an equestrian club.  Sounds a lot like the old "Harmony" guy though who posted old Z's but never sold them.

http://www.harmonclassics.com/

https://www.facebook.com/HarmonClassics/

Here's another, that's more likely - https://harmonclassicbrakes.com/

Another - http://www.harmonsclassiccars.com/

 

 

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46 minutes ago, esmit208 said:

:huh: some of these LOW VIN rigs are getting ridiculous on the asking price. The buyer will need 15K or more to get it presentable again. Let's all try to be just a little more realistic here

$15K wouldn't even cover the bodywork and welding needed.  A serious restoration on this car with correct parts will be in the $40-$50K range easy

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It just needs a clearcoat to stop the rust.  Then drive it as a survivor. 

What's up with the white gauges?  The guy is adding more pictures as we talk about it I think.  There seem to be a bunch more now.  A ton.

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Black gauges. Just the reflection of the front lens on them.

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That blue 31K mile series-1 that sold on BAT for $39K is driving a lot of this.  It was a 4-digit VIN car, looked good enough, and could have been left as-is which I think is the new owner's plan since it is going in to a museum.  At the end of the day, the market will speak on this can and kudos to the seller for posting a ton of pictures.  The winner bidder will know exactly what they are buying.

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$15K wouldn't even cover the bodywork and welding needed.  A serious restoration on this car with correct parts will be in the $40-$50K range easy

Fully agree we are in the middle of a 4 digit VIN resto and it is clearing out the bank accounts.

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9 minutes ago, Montezuma said:


Fully agree we are in the middle of a 4 digit VIN resto and it is clearing out the bank accounts.

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Yes, an accurate restoration of an early car is ridiculously expensive.  I won't (can't?) even talk about what I've spent on #87 so far, and I'm nowhere near finished.   Personally, I'm just happy to see that more of these early cars are coming out of hiding - and going to new owners who are committed to restoration or preservation.   

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$3.76 and a tune-up.  Done.  For a while anyway.  There is something about seeing history writ in wear and tear that's attractive.  105 looks like 106 looks like 107...after restoration.  Looks like it started life as an orange car.  The rear strut towers are orange and the sanded through areas on the body.  Must have been a good paint shop though, they painted the spare tire well green.  Or is that a factory color change?  Where's the low number guys.?

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20 minutes ago, Zed Head said:

 Looks like it started life as an orange car.  The rear strut towers are orange and the sanded through areas on the body.  Must have been a good paint shop though, they painted the spare tire well green.  Or is that a factory color change?  

Looks like an original green car to me. The rear strut towers are covered in tan vinyl, not orange paint, and the sanded through areas on the body is red oxide primer.

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My mistake.  They put the vinyl on pretty tight on the early cars.  My 76 is loose and puffy.

My 76 has gray primer.  Did Nissan use red primer for the early cars?  Just adding to the puzzle.  Edit - is that a factory green color?  Seems kind of bright.  Edit 2 - there's overspray on the serial number badge.

Edit 3 - two tone seats.  Not stock, or an early option?  Yellow sway bar.

That's the thing about barn finds.  They're time capsuley.  Restoring removes all that.

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11 minutes ago, Zed Head said:

Did Nissan use red primer for the early cars?  Just adding to the puzzle.  Edit - is that a factory green color?  Seems kind of bright.  Edit 2 - there's overspray on the serial number badge.

Edit 3 - two tone seats.  Not stock, or an early option?  Yellow sway bar.

That's the thing about barn finds.  They're time capsuley.  Restoring removes all that.

Yes, Nissan used red oxide primer.  It looks like that car was originally 907 green (the only green in 1970) with tan interior (tan only came with green exterior cars in 1970).  Clearly based on the overspray on the car it has been repainted at least once.  No, the two tone seats are not stock.  There were no seating options.  The seat vinyl color should match the rest of the interior.  The rear yellow sway bar is aftermarket.  North American cars didn't come with rear sway bars until 1974 I believe.  However, Japanese market cars did have rear sway bars from the beginning of production.

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The engine in the video looks cleaned up.

3 screw carbs too.

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If memory serves me right, 105 was listed on BAT about the same time as 187.  105 was in a field in Kentucky and was sold with another parts car.

 

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Looks like the red dot mirror was there in the Craigslist ad  but it is now missing. It also needs heater panel, radio, hubcaps, ashtray, interior panels, correct plastic vent ducts,  and gas door knob.  A few thousand for these on top of the body work.

Rear glass and alternator look right.  The seats do not seem to have the belt hanger clips.

 

 

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