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240z Tail Light Shroud Color

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Ran Across DatsunPartsLLC's eBay posting today for a rattle can of paint for restoring the 240z Tail Light shroud. Great, except that it's $30/can, plus another $12 for shipping. I can't seem to find much on the subject; does anyone know a good alternative for getting close to the original color that doesn't does $42 for a can of spraypaint?

Thanks much,

Bill

Ref: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Datsun-Nissan-OEM-Z-240Z-True-Taillight-Panel-Grey-NEW-Factory-Color-Paint-Can-/400290950344?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d33332cc8&vxp=mtr#ht_1162wt_1037

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If you don't need exact, go down to autoparts and look at the selection of Dupli-Color stuff. Home depot also has some interesting paints. I ended up using flat black and I really prefer the look.

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ID: 3   Posted (edited)

I used a 8$ flat black paint made for barbecue grills , it is heat resistant and applies with ease, no drips and looks great ;)

Edited by 72 OJ

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There is a Duplicolor choice that is close in shade, but way too glossy. I used the paint from Classic Datsun Motorsports on mine. It's just about as expensive, but I'll bet Les charges less to ship. http://classicdatsun.com/

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I bought a can from Les - took it to the PPG shop in my hometown - had them mix up some PPG paint to color with some clear mixed in - and air'd it on. Turned out beautiful and a much better protected coat of paint. Then I ebayed the rattle can and got my money back. Worked great for me and the tail finisher is painted correctly................PPG is not cheap though. My hometown Auto Paint Supply house can custom mix a little as 2 ounces - if you mix that 50/50 with a good reducer it works great.

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Here is a link to what I did for my Z, the results were fantastic and it looks like a factory finish.

http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?13593-Color-for-grill-rear-tail-light-panel&p=90742&viewfull=1#post90742

That is the paint I used, however, because of the 'gloss' I put on 2 light coats of clear matt finish. The same process was used on the grill and wheel covers.

Bonzi Lon

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My thoughts on the subject from many years ago. http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?6128-What-is-the-correct-color-for-the-rear-tailight-panel&highlight=rear+valance+color

It appears as though some posts from the thread have been deleted - doesn't surprise me. So please don't take my condescending tone out of context! It is my belief that the "correct" color matches the hubcaps and the front grill. A charcoal / metalic dark grey. It is a satin finish but not rough in texture, in-other-words, you can wax the finish.

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I used a Dupli-Color Engine paint called "Cast Coat Iron". It is extremely close to the color you want without the cost.

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I bought a can from Les - took it to the PPG shop in my hometown - had them mix up some PPG paint to color with some clear mixed in - and air'd it on. Turned out beautiful and a much better protected coat of paint. Then I ebayed the rattle can and got my money back. Worked great for me and the tail finisher is painted correctly................PPG is not cheap though. My hometown Auto Paint Supply house can custom mix a little as 2 ounces - if you mix that 50/50 with a good reducer it works great.

Do you have the "mix" info for the PPG paint? The shop I go to can do about anything.

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Ironhelix, see post #8 and follow the link. The formula from Wick Humble's book is listed there.

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Geez. I even have a copy of Wick's book. Thanks for the help.

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Question on the Duplicolor #102 Graphite. I've sprayed my rear finisher 2 or 3 times. In between coats I've knocked the sheen off with 0000 steel wool. It looks so good dull I want to spray the matte clear over the lightly sanded Duplicolor. Would that be a mistake? It get's the metallic looking sparkles out but everything I've read says spray the matte straight on the Duplicolor. I'm guessing "it's up to you" will be the consensus but was hoping to hear someone else had done the same.

Thanks for any experiences.

Cliff

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I sprayed the clear right over the cured graphite. No one at any Z-car show has said it is the wrong color. :)

Bonzi Lon

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I sprayed graphite and matt clear on the top of it.n I only use steel wool scribble once BEFORE spray paint, not between spray multiple coating.

The result looks like this.

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Thanks guys, that looks perfect. I think I was taking the "match striker" look too literal. 1 more question though. Mine have a black strip painted on the red plastic. Do I need to do this or is it something a previous owner did? What did you all do? Pictures below.

Thanks for your help,

Cliff.

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If you get the reproduction chrome trim pieces that cover that area and attach through the holes in the lenses, no worries about the black lines. Your originals are removed. Ebay and MSA are your friends for that task.

Dennis

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ID: 19   Posted (edited)

Thanks Dennis, I'd read about the reproduction strips but mine are in pretty good shape for now. I only broke off a 1/4" of that center post removing them and am hoping silicone dobbs will hold it in place until I am ready to do a full on restoration.

After removing them I found that black paint on the red lenses. At 1st I thought it could be soot but it's paint. I don't see the need to re apply it as the strips will cover that area, but if it's needed I'll do it.

OK, now I've found where Dr 240Z has his painted, didn't notice earlier when I read his write up, http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/electrical-s30/51111-240z-tail-light-refurbishment.html

Thanks again Dr 240Z.

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