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    A person on another board I participate in has been looking for an early RHD Fairlady Z:

    He's not particularly worried about condition, but he's not willing to spend big money for a poor example. Seems like he's looking for something he can restore, and therefore wants to keep the price as low as possible.

    He's in the States, not sure if there's many of these around in North America. He's looked in Japan, but was floored by the high prices.

    Any ideas or cars you know of that are available?
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    I saw this 1971 on craigslist in CA the other day, but it looks like it is a non-stock mess and the seller is dreaming about the price.

    http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/964327341.html

    -Mike

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    Wow - you aren't kidding...that seems a little high

    I think the preference is stock, not a project car. I am thinking there's no real premium for a RHD in the US, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rdefabri View Post
    I am thinking there's no real premium for a RHD in the US, right?
    IMO, not a large premium, no. There are people out there who want them (such as your friend), but not enough of them to drive the price on the RHD cars significantly higher than a US 240Z.
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    What is the dollar value of a "low price"? What is the dollar value of "high prices"?

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    I guess it's like Edwin Meese and his comments on pornography - can't tell you what it is but I'll know it when I see it.

    Seriously - hard to say. I'd guess something like what I own (maybe a 4 car, it's drivable, no serious rust issues, but not a concours car by any stretch) - so maybe $5 - $8K?
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    Importing a car from Japan is already going to cost $4000-$6000. Now finding a Z for under $4000-$6000 to average the amount he want to spend is going to be hard. What I am trying to say is that that is not going to happen. LHD in Japan is already going for average $6000-$9000. Also LHD is cheaper than RHD. That will give you an Idea how much its going to cost to import one. Ask me how I know.......I learned it the hard way.

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    Good advice - I think he saw that already in terms of importing.
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    Fairlady S31 2+2 Z seems to be easy to find in the state and the S31 coupe kinda, Those are pretty cheap. I see them go for the price your friend is looking for $5,000-$8,000. Now one in the craigslist ad is a 1st series fairlady Z, those are pretty much rare to find in Japan. First series are already up to $15,000-$18,000.

    Maybe ask the seller to part out the car?

    Hope that helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike B View Post
    I saw this 1971 on craigslist in CA the other day, but
    it looks like it is a non-stock mess and the seller is dreaming about the price.

    http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/964327341.html

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    body right (just slapped on).
    Body work is gonna be needed for that and if he really wanted that price those
    Toyota brakes gotta go for some Arizona Wilwoods
    Other than that all he needs is paint it seems like cause those HKS parts
    aren't cheap.

    Nothing major, just the little stuff HKS alone means your off to a
    good start IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ngarage View Post
    Fairlady S31 2+2 Z seems to be easy to find in the state and the S31 coupe kinda, Those are pretty cheap. I see them go for the price your friend is looking for $5,000-$8,000. Now one in the craigslist ad is a 1st series fairlady Z, those are pretty much rare to find in Japan. First series are already up to $15,000-$18,000.

    Maybe ask the seller to part out the car?

    Hope that helps
    2+2's do seem to be more plentiful than the coupes. Unfortunately not to many like them so they end up getting parted out.

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    Here is another listing for the same car. I think it is from the same seller, just adding more details and photos?

    http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/971749598.html

    The interior looks ok - the dash has a cap. The engine is just a bare block with nothing hooked up.

    -Mike

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    WAY over priced!!!
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    It's in the classifieds at $3,500

    http://www.classiczcars.com/classifi...uct=3474&cat=1

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    Yep -saw this. The interior is in poor shape and the floors rusted. I paid about the same for mine and it's in WAY better shape, albeit that was 4 years ago.

    I did send this to him. Thanks for the help!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rdefabri View Post
    Yep -saw this. I paid about the same for mine and it's in WAY better shape, albeit that was 4 years ago.
    True, but I do think there is a premium for RHD Fairlady's in the US. There just aren't that many of them. However, that is another reason I wouldn't want to buy one and to try to restore it to stock. I image it would be very difficult and expensive to obtain some of the parts.

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    You think there's a premium for a RHD 240Z? I don't profess to know, which is why I ask, but I can't see it. I certainly wouldn't touch one, but that's me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rdefabri View Post
    You think there's a premium for a RHD 240Z? I don't profess to know, which is why I ask, but I can't see it. I certainly wouldn't touch one, but that's me.
    Yes, I think theire is a premium in the US for RHD cars. The supply is very limited and I think demand is greater with the younger crowd into the JDM look. I agree though, I wouldn't want one either (unless it was a 432, 432-R, or maybe a really nice G-nose) .

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdefabri View Post
    I certainly wouldn't touch one, but that's me.
    You make them sound positively poisonous.........!

    Any specific reasons for that, apart from the obvious worries about RHD-specific parts supply?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HS30-H View Post
    You make them sound positively poisonous.........!

    Any specific reasons for that, apart from the obvious worries about RHD-specific parts supply?
    An applicable response from one of my British colleagues when I (jokingly) asked him if he would be interested in buying my E-Type: "The steering wheel is on the wrong side!"

    That's the primary issue - I tried my hand at RHD driving in both the UK and Bermuda - I wasn't particularly good at it. I have enough trouble driving a LHD car here in the States!
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    I have a GS31 2+2 for sale.As in my avatar,but just done a 4yr rebuild/rust removal and total bare steel repaint in the original white with a subtle pearl added

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    Previous Datsuns owned:
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    1981 280 ZX (silver)
    Presently owned Datsuns:
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    RHD in the states or a LHD in NZ are just plain dangerous in traffic. Unless you have a passenger, pulling out to pass is "hit and miss" in my book.

    Apart from the "novelity" factor, why on earth would you want a RHD in the states?

    Given that as you say, specific RHD parts are hard to find.

    Would people assume that a JDM FairladyZ or a export HS30 are worth the same?
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    It's not for me, it's someone else that's looking for it. He likes the idea of having a car that's authentic to the way it was in it's home country. I agree - it's more of a hassle having a RHD car in a country where we drive on the right.
    '72 240Z HLS30-73667 (sold)
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