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This is a discussion on Datsun-240z Vs Fairlady-z432 within the Open S30 Z Discussions forums, part of the 1st Generation Z (S30) category; Hi, #1 Z432 needs two radiator caps(in early model like 1969 to jan 1970). The left for the reservor tank(you ...


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    Hi,

    #1 Z432 needs two radiator caps(in early model like 1969 to jan 1970).
    The left for the reservor tank(you notice push bottun),the rigt for the radiator.
    This -E4201 is code for the Z432,but I think my 1970 HLS30 240Z has same cap.Is this true?

    #2 What do you think of this black plastic duct?This is for the cabin air intake next to the right corner of the radiator.Yes,this unique shape is only for the Z432.It has to be this shape because of Z432's air cleaner duct system.Do you know what I mean?

    #3 This is not nothing new,the jute pads for the early RHD model.Just not interchangeable with the early LHD model.

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    Kats,
    I am glad you are out of the hospital, and hope your recovery is as fast as your 432 and as complete as your Z restoration!

    I purchased a pair of the ignition switches with the Garage option (and every other interesting par, from the way too far gone and picked over remains of two evidently early rhd S30s-no vins) since your post on them, and currently have them at a locksmith for cleaning the cylinders and having keys made. My local locksmith was having a great deal of trouble finding keys, so I have jumped into the search. They appear to need the Waso keys; and, I may have found a source for them-I'll know when I receive them, and will let everyone know.
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    Hope you feel better Kats! Thank you for the pictures. Both of my owner manuals have pictures and words about the hand throttle.
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    Will, I have some of the Waso key blanks. I'll send you a PM later today.

    -Mike

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    I am getting better,thank you Will, and Chris.

    The pictures of the manual,
    #1 The left is 20th Dec 1969,the right is 15th Jan 1970
    #2 page 13 from the 1969 manual,description of the hand throttle
    #3 page 13 from the 1970 manual,just a picture of a 240Z
    #4 but close up view of that page,you can see the paper sheet is attached
    over the original throttle picture.

    Will,I really sorry about the Fairlady-Z manual written in English,I am ready to send but I forgot.Please let me know again your e-mail adress which can receive many pictures.

    Mike,I bought the hood bumpers!!

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    I want to show these two caps,the left is currently purchased from nissan and the right is purchased some years ago.
    The left is silver and thin metal.The right is plated and thicker metal than the left.

    According to the brouchure of U.S. 240Z,a radiator cap looks plated like gold,the right one might be the same?

    kats

    P.S.Here is a link of a epair example of the Z432's radiator,it is made of aluminum ,that is OEM. How ever you will notice the silver radiator cap and the different tubing below the cap,which are not correct as a stock.
    http://www.ne.jp/asahi/dockman/racin...ator/index.htm
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    Hi,
    I revised my website a little.Lots of pictures when my 240Z was restored.
    I need to put more,just a half of its way now.

    http://www.geocities.jp/datsunz903/story.html

    Thank you,

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    1972 DATSUN 240Z
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    Hi Kats

    Nicely done and thanks for providing all of us with an insight into how your car came to be in the immaculate condition that it is in today. Looks like you did the right thing in holding out for that "special" car.

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    Hey Kats!

    What can you tell me about this car? A Vintage Z?
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    I'll chime in on impressions between Fairlady Z and 240, as my introduction was when I bought my 1975 Fairlady Z-S in Okinawa. I really got used to this car, and wanted to ship it back to the USA on completion of my tour of duty, but alas that was not to be... So I bought a US Spec 240Z almost immediately upon returning to the USA. My first impressions upon driving the US model was immediately 'something is wrong!' The car was a wallowing pig, the throttle response was numb, and the car just did not seem to accelerate like my 2-Litre Fairlady Z-S! I tuned and tuned, but nothing I did got rid of that 'wallowing disconnected pig' feel of the US car.

    Eventually, I found a 3.7 gearset, and the acceleration started to pick up, and when my suspension off a 73 Fairlady Z arrived in my home baggage, I installed it and realised there was a distinct difference between Japan Market and US Market suspensions. But there was still the little things: The plastic mats in the Z-S and no jute underneath, no layers and layers of sound deadening under the mats at all in that Z-S. And the doors...oh, those 73 240Z Doors....my gawd! They weighed a TON in comparison, and compared to the tinny sound when closed on my 75 Z-S, they sounded like Caddillac Coupe DeVille portals. I reworked my 73 pretty radically, and got it the way I wanted it.
    Since living back in the USA for many years now, I recently bought a 1976 Fairlady Z-S model again...EFI and those wonderful Plastic Mats. In a 2/2!

    With a transplanted L28, and BONE STOCK that Fairlady Z 2/2 is a full second quicker than ANY of my 280Z Coupes! That thing cranks out consistent 15.50 quarter mile sprints, while the 280Z coupes I have run simply slog along in the mid 16's... It's a nimble car, 'numb' is a good discriptor when comparing the US and JDM models for sure.

    When Frank 280ZX came over and was driving my wife's 260Z with poly bushings all 'round, he commented on it's 'wallowing' tendencies as well. And that was compared to his Eurospec 260Z 2+2.

    Frankly, the USA did not finance the rest of the world's 'good bits', it's a matter of marketing. Mr. K has said many time 'Americans like to Drive their Barcalounger down the Highway' and sadly he has hit the nail on the head. The numb disconnected feel is what a LOT of the motoring public in the USA wanted in the 70's. The Caddillac Coupe DeVille was considered a 'personal motoring conveyance'...you could fit a whole African Village in the boot! In 1972 cars like the Chrysler Newport were selling like hotcakes. I remember getting sick in the back of my Uncle's Buick...seasick. "Road Barge" has apt meaning. The marketing department holds much sway, and they soften up things to a very big extent.
    Ever wonder why Ford Seatbelts tend ot hang out the door and get caught when you close without checking? Consumer Feedback from manny females say the pretensioners are 'much too tight' and cause 'chafing'. Putting a lambswool piece on the belt and properly tensioning the spring costs more than simply using a weaker spring...and by the time that weaker spring starts sagging, it's out of warranty and out of mind...

    I'm digressing on a rant against the US specifications, so I'll stop now. But as someone who was introduced to a JDM Z-S model, when I got my similar vintage US Spec 240, it was a sad letdown from what I was expecting.

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    Hi Chris

    I believe that this VZ is (as per Carls registery):

    VIN: HLS30 00630
    Production Date: 01 / 70
    Color Body /Int: Red/Black
    Orig.Eng.Number:
    Eng. Number:
    Owner: Auto Garage Motoyama
    City/State/Cntry: Japan
    Sold By Z Store: Nissan Charity Auction
    IZCC Member#:
    Comments: Offered For Sale At $50K USD
    e-mail:
    Date Registered: 18 July 05
    Reported by: Kats {Katsuhiko Endo} in Japan

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    Thank you Tony D,

    I have read your story and appreciate that you share with us.Let me explain about OKINAWA prefecture a little bit who has no idea where it is.(maybe I don't need to..)
    Okinawa is in the Pacific ocean ,south west of Japan, a large group of islands. Always summer and beautiful oceans/beaches/coral.

    Returned in 1972 from the U.S. , so Nissan/Toyota etc. had sent their LHD models in Okinawa until traffic flow had changed to RHD.But not so many cars were sent their especially before 70's, Japanese car company did not have a lot of dealers in Okinawa.People did not have to buy Japanese cars,American cars were natural for them.

    Tony D,did you buy 1975 Fairlady- Z as new? I am very curious
    I saw some people got Japanese Z, some of them served in Japan main land like Yokosuka base,Misawa base,Iwakuni base.I can see they got RHD model because they were in main land,but how about in Okinawa?

    When S30 model was released to the public in 1969, Okinawa was only prefecture in Japan where was under the control of the U.S.
    My question is, was there any LHD 240Z sold in Okinawa?If it is true,how wonderful!Until 1972,was LHD 240Z really sold in Okinawa?
    Oh yes,I tried once some years ago. I flew to Okinawa and visited Okinawa NISSAN in Naha city. I met a manager and asked about possibility of selling LHD 240Z in Okinawa, but he said he did not know.Seemed anyone in the dealer could not find the facts because it is too old story.
    I should go out of dealers, ask people who aged 60-70 years old.

    Thank you,

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    Like Tony D's Fairlady-Z (standard model),is the lightest Z for the ordinary customer.(racing model Z432-R is the lightest, but it is not listed in the brouchure)

    I heard some people made a choice buying -Z standard intentionaly,because the car is lighter than Z432(975 kilograms VS 1040 kilograms) and its 4 speed with final gear ratio 3.700 is very good for a start dash.
    L20 has got only 130hp, but it could go faster than S20's 160hp sometimes.
    And cheaper!!Just a half price of Z432

    But in 1975,situations were not the same as early 1970,I think.

    Hi Chris and Joseph,

    Yes the red 240Z is a vintage Z program car!!Chris,is it O.K. to use your original tyre's picture in my website for "wanted" original one?

    kats
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    Hi,

    In Japan we love DATSUN COMPE steering wheel.You can see this in the safari / montecarlo rally cars.The real rally car's wheels are not exactly the same from the one which I have.Mine is a reproduction one from NISMO.

    This NISMO one,every one loves this and want to have in their cockpit.You can see many this wheels are selling in Yahoo Japan auction.In 1994 NISMO's 10 years old celebrating they released 500 units first,but too many people wanted , NISMO decided add 500 units more immediately.

    You all know the steering wheel has variation between export(LHD/RHD) and Japanese RHD.The attached picture,comparing these,the left is export and the right is Japanese.You can see the difference of depth of corn.

    This results difference of turn signal lever "angle".We can not apply Japanese wheel to export model otherwise your fingers are always stuck on the wheel.

    DATSUN COMPE (I do not know real rally car's) just same as Japanese wheel.

    If export RHD 240Z wants DATSUN COMPE, you can replace turn signal lever to a Japanese one.
    But for LHD 240Z,I do not think there is another lever produced from the factory.To prevent finger stucking,you need to BEND the turn signal lever away from the steering wheel.

    DATSUN COMPE,the black grip is not real leather.It is made of something like rubber(urethan).

    kats

    P.S. We in Japan cloth-braided bidding WAR has just ended.Mr.Nishi produced reproduction of hoses.Unfortunately, only for Z432 and Skyline. I will take off my Z432's real OEM radiator hoses to replace these reproduction,perfect!!
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    Atually, one of our Group Z club members Pat Cordova is the original owner of his 1972 240Z bought and delivery accepted while he was stationed in the Army on Okinawa.
    My 75 Fairlady was brought down from the mainland for the last Shaken-Sho (typical of the GI Used Car Market at the time).

    Okinawa had many strange vehicles like RA22 Celicas with the JDM 18RG DOHC Engine, yet in LHD---only one of which was ever officially imported by Toyota Motor Co. USA into the USA for testing and evaluation (RA22-000005, owned by Jogi Luz at Toysport in L.A.) The only dealership in Okinawa at the time that was selling Z's (outside of Army Air Force Exchange Dealers) was Naha Prince. When I was there, you still had to go to Naha to get your Z-Parts, and the gentleman behind the counter had three fingers...very helpful and knowledgable on the S30's. Before I left, I went to Naha Prince to see the 'new' R32 GT-R that was in the showroom. None were allocated to Okinawa, and the story was the vehicle in the showroom was already sold to someone on the mainland, but had to be displayed that month before they could take delivery. The Parts department was actually across the street in the Sunny dealership.

    If you want information on Z's in Okinawa during the 70's, talk to Oshiro Georgi, and Tomoyose Kuraido...both work on American Installations in the center of the island. Tomoyose's father was an American Citizen that owned a large machine shop (where the Johnny Walker Warehouse visible off Rte 58 in Naha currently is located). Tomoyose owned the only Z432 on the island at the time, and it changed hands, ending up with Oshiro who owns it to this day. Oshiro sold his Honda City Turbo II to buy the 432!

    I have seen several other early Z's which were claimed to have been bought and delivered on Okinawa during that same time.

    My 1970 (-ish) Fairlady Z was bought by a DOD School Teacher on the mainland, and in 1976 shipped it to Arizona when she rotated duty stations, where it resided until I purchased it in 1990.

    My 1978 Fairlady 280Z was bought early...it looks to have been produced around the middle of July, and was shipped the following September...given military regulations requiring 1 year of ownership to ship the vehicle it is believed to be a one-owner car. When that owner was at Norton AFB in CA, there was eventually a problem with emissions on the vehicle, and he traded it in to a dealership for a new Z31 (1988). It got put into the back lot with the idea that the dealership would restore it for showroom floor duty...but the dealer went bankrupt, so the parts manager was given the vehicle for 'severance pay'. It sat in their back yard for 14 years... One day someone my wife works with saw her driving my 75 Fairlady Z 2/2 and said "Hey, we have one just like that!" My wife, after telling me not a month earlier "No more Z-Cars!" had the duty that evening to come in and say to me "Honey, um, do you want a Fairlady Z?"

    I digress...

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    Thank you Tony D,

    There are LHD 240Zs sold in Okinawa, just great
    I must see Mr.Oshiro Georgi, and Mr.Tomoyose Kuraido.They will tell me much more about the story of 60's to 70's.

    kats

    P.S. Attached pictures are Comparison of a lever angle.

    And what do you think of this fuse for ? This is only for Z432.

    And Z432's spare tyre holder,this part can be seen and is illustrated in the parts catalog.
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    Thaks for the info, Joseph! If memory serves me correctly, it sold at auction for $35 - Monterey?

    I think the fuse is for the 8-track player / radio, Kats. Nice steering wheel. I think the 260 Z import had a wheel like that. I have one in very poor condition.
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    Hi Kats

    Those copy radiator hoses look beautiful; any plans for Mr Nishi to remake them for the S30?

    The bottom radiator hose for the 432 looks the same as the S30, does it not? I am sure there would be a large market for the copy hoses, but will it take away from the "specialness" of cars like Kats and Bob Speights 72?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kats View Post
    And what do you think of this fuse for ? This is only for Z432.
    Hi Kats:
    That fuse and fuse holder are most likey for the electric fuel pump. Note same wire colors etc.

    See thread: Fuel Pump Wiring - Post #11 (picture below)
    Fuel Pump Wiring

    FWIW,
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    Hi Kats:
    What is the diameter of the DATSUN COMPE steering wheel?

    Is COMPE an abbreviation for COMPETITION?

    regards,
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    I will second the "Fuel Pump" fuse thought. In the early cars, the wiring is extant in the harness for the fuel pump, you just have to add the fuseholder pigtail to connect to it. On the car Kats has, the fuse holder and pigtail is included factory soldered in the box.

    Kats, I may have Kuraido Tomoyose's mobile phone number, if I can find it... I will PM it to you. He owned that 432 for years. He built the engine that was in my 1973 240Z (original matching numbers L24) Alas I sold that engine to someone other and installed an L28(T) along with many other goodies from RS Okinawa like HKS Surge Tank, Mikuini Carbs, RSST Springs...all the good stuff available in Japan that I simply never saw in the USA (at the time.)

    Keep up the photos, and documenting differences. It's very interesting!
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    Hi everyone,

    Tony D and Carl correct,the fuse is "electrical fuel pump" the holder is OEM and looks nice does not it?

    Carl,the steering wheel is 35mm diameter.COMPE means COMPETITION,you right.

    Joseph,I will ask Mr.Nishi for any plan making reproduction of cloth-braided hoses.I too think some demand in the world making good profit for the shops.

    In Japan now really cold and not much driving and nothing new to post.

    Just enjoy before and after of Z432's dash restoration.

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    Kats,
    The pictures are great!
    Thanks for posting them.
    Did you paint the Heater Control Panel?
    I have a NOS one that has a few thin spots in the paint, and it needs some attention.
    ALso I have a brown switch like your ign switch that turns but does not switch, could you check the contacts on yours for me and post the connections?
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    Kats,

    A question on the firewall insulator. Does the 432 have a different pattern to the HS30? Is that a new insulator? Couldn't take some measurements of it and PM it to me could you?
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    I want to know where my clock with built-in stop watch is!!! Why do the Japanese always get the good stuff? :P
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    Hello,

    Will,let me check later,the car and switch located very far from me.

    240znz,I think Z432's is different from any other model,but HS30 and S30 are the same.You can see the attached picture of throttle linkage,Z432 has different from other model.

    bpilati,do you have a stop watch like mine?With an Oscilater?

    Today I show the Z432 duct wich has just reproduced.The original is made of soft plastic but repro is molded by FRP.

    Probably no one out side of Japan will be interested in this,but if some one want to see..

    And talking about a battery,it is smaller than the one you have(HLS30/HS30) .
    You see the battery cap with a different frame.

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    Please enjoy the pictures.

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    Kats,
    Amazing, thank you for posting all of these jewels!
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    Thank you Will

    Have you ever seen these Japanese brochures/manuals ?These are all 1969 issued literatures except bottom right,a white parts catalog(1972)

    Upper Left:Service manual / center:Service bulletin / right: giveaway at 1969 Tokyo motor show
    Lower Left:folded catalog poster size / center: main brochure / right : owers manual / parts catalog

    And Z432's magnesium wheel needs special nut(not special??)40224-E4200.
    Is this same shape of the one which is used for common slotted wheel?

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    I have seen/held a couple of the manuals (2nd from the left on both the top and the bottom) you picture, one I have seen on Yahoo Japan, and three of the four corners are completely new to me.
    I believe I have a PDF copy of the lower right corner.
    Thanks again for posting these wonderful photos!

    On the lugnuts, they are similar to all that I have seen used with slots, but not the same.
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    Hi Kats! I have the 1972 parts manual. Your wheel nuts look like the ones for my Watanabes. Great pictures - thanks!
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    Chris - what are you doing up at 3:00AM? Just getting in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kats View Post
    Like Tony D's Fairlady-Z (standard model),is the lightest Z for the ordinary customer.(racing model Z432-R is the lightest, but it is not listed in the brouchure)

    Kats,
    I'm surprised to see you write that the Z432-R model was not listed in the domestic brochures, as I have two early brochures in my collection where it very clearly was listed.

    The clearest of these - the 'Your Dream Comes True' campaign poster-size fold-out with the red bonnet front cover - you showed in your latest post.......

    Here's a close-up of the back cover, with the Z432-R on the top right:
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    Hi Alan,

    I was surprised,Z432R is shown in yours.But in my catalog, it does not show the Z432R data. I did not know there is a catalog like Alan has.Which is the earliest between yours and mine? Maybe mine is a little earlier because yours has mentioned about automatic trans.

    I said "Z432R is not listed in the brochure" ,I know if I say like this,I am not right.Yes, it is listed.But always only very small description, a very few shots. No specific data is listed in the catalog/manuals.

    At that time this was in my mind " we can see the Z432R in the brochure,but we can not see the data of its car because the data is not listed"

    Even the service bulletin says "So Racing and Rally version PS30SB(Z432R) is a special car that this bulletin does not mention at all"
    We always frustrated we can see very little description like this, " Z432R for motor sport and racing,can be tuned highly"

    But yours listed Z432R's picture.Great Alan!!

    kats

    PS/ The original owner of this catalog might buy Fairlady Z(basic model) ,he circled the left red Z.You see the writing 97.6 is a retail price at Tokyo 976,000 JPY.
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    Thanks for the close up of the firewall showing the trottle linkage and more importantly the choke cable boot. It looks the same as the throttle boot. Might have to use the same boot on mine as I've moved to triple 44's. Great pics as always Kats, keep them coming.

    Does anyone know why the fresh air ducts are configured for the lower of the two radiator support bracket holes? Those repo ducts look great.
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    Hi 240znz,

    The grommet for the choke cable is not an original.I just could not come by an original so applied this like throttle boot.
    Please see the picture of service bulletin.

    And the duct,it should be go down due to an air cleaner duct running through upper hole.

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    Hey Carl! 3 AM is when I get to talk to Madrid. Not just getting in. Just getting up!
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    Default Z432R shot

    Hello Chris,how are you doing ? how is the Restoration going?
    Will,thank you for the info of nuts.Nowadays tapered basement is common,but AP and American racing need flat basement nuts,right?

    And this shot is only one Z432R in the brochure.No precise description/specification data.Very cool!

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    "And Z432's magnesium wheel needs special nut(not special??)40224-E4200.
    Is this same shape of the one which is used for common slotted wheel?"

    Hi Kats - I have a NOS set of lug nuts (Nissan Part Number 40224-R4670) to show the difference with your 40224-E4200 set. The obvious difference would be the lack of a washer on yours. Also, in place of the washer the base is quite a bit more substantial. What is the reason for not using a washer on the magnesium wheels?
    Thanks for the geat display of photos to brighten our day.
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    There must be something special about those nuts Kats. I noticed that in the 1973-12 HS30 Sports Option Parts catalog that they cost almost 3 times as much as the others listed. Is it just because of the special dimensions or perhaps the material they are made from? I also noticed there was only one SPACER-lock nut 48635-E7200 listed (what I refered to as a washer). This SPACER must have been used with all the nuts listed? The spacers are captive on the set of nuts I have.

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    Looking at the last five digits of the three part numbers, R46xx indicates that those were originally used on a KGC110, E42xx on a PS30, and E72xx on a PS30S. Those number indicate the original application but these parts were used on subsequent models as the 40224-R4670 lug nuts are the same part number used on the aluminum wheels on my US market 810 but they are identical to the ones on my 78 280Z which are 40224-N3200 but supercede to 40224-R4670.
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    Hello everyone,

    This winter in Japan,we have got snow quite often.Terrible salt spread on the road everywhere especially country road and some highway.I know but I drove my 240Z and Z432 a little

    Thank you geezer and sblake01, actually
    My Z432 is not using original nut E4200, I now found Z432 is using the nut you posted, R4670.I did not know that.
    E4200 is just little bigger than the hole,it can not be in the hole.
    My friend who is also a Z432 owner,he trimmed the nuts at a professional factory and use them.

    Probably E4200 used to small as an original made back in 70's, as opposed to the nuts which we can get now is original Nissan made but it is not completely the same like used to.

    Today some pictures,please note the spare tire cover,it is different from other model.It is made two pieces for Z432 only.This is a reproduction has just completed for me. The material is exactly same as an original.The jute pad you can see is also same material but not dyed.

    And an oscillator,I replaced to a NOS one.It is bolted,the bolts are welded on the fire wall.

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    Kats,

    Awesome cars! Your 240Z is the same color as my mom's '71!

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    Default try picky

    Thank you tbone82 I love blue , looks great in 240Z.But for Z432, blue is not listed in the catalog. I do not think my 240Z's blue suit for my Z432...

    I drove my Z432 from Sendai city to Nara city approx. 600miles in one day.I drooped at a Z factory in Kanazawa city on my way, Mr.Moroe who restored this Z was waiting for me and Z432 to see and perform periodical maintenance.

    When my Z432 is inspected,I decided to replace original fuel tank , because it is not good for use, it is rusty inside,fuel pomp's filter gathered many rust.
    Mr.Moroe switched old one to NOS tank ,but the new one is for 1975 Z. I t is bigger than 1970 original,but I did not have any choice at that time.

    I hope the original tank is restored soon and gets back to my Z432 in place.

    Two pictures,the first one is an orange Z432 pictured in 1969 motor show(press day?) I love this picture , it is a good to know to find the originals.

    The second one is myZ432.
    Let's try to find out what is wrong and what is different.Be picky

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    Hi

    Very nice, a true winner!!!

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    When I dropped at Mr.Moroe's shop, I happened to see PS30-00087.

    What a wonderful moment that my Z432 actually met her sister again since they came apart for delivery from the Nissan factory back in January 1970.

    Like 26th and 27th, Chris They must have wonderful times.

    PS30-00087, she is now belonging to a new owner recently.
    She is very beautiful , still keeping original body paint with lots of original part.Amazingly, she has not been restored.Her S20 engine and suspensions have been modified, and she has got AFM air conditioning system.
    I was lucky I met her, she came to the shop to have totally restoration!!

    For someone may interested in, she has got reproduction Z432 aluminum wheels. It looks perfect, center cap is also reproduced.I do not know they are still available or not. If you see my Z432's original Magnesium wheel and cap in my website, you can see how the repros are close to mine.

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    Thank you Filipe

    Last year I owned this Z432 but I had not enough time to drive her.Only once a month, 1 hour or so each time.I kept her at my parents home.

    But from now, she is in my house.I drive and drive , even in the rain.I have to take a lot of pictures of this car before she gets dirty and old.

    About a rally clock, in Japan many owners say it eats a lot of battery power,you will end up complete discharge in three days if you park the car with connecting the clock.

    I did not believe it, but I had just same thing yesterday.This morning I had to do start Z432 with external power from another car.

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    Hi Kats:
    See image below...

    FWIW,
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    Hi Carl,

    You have good eyes!! I am impressed you pointed these out.Especially a wing nut of the air cleaner box.

    There are some things that are still misssing, does enyone find out yet?

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    Hi Kats,

    I am surprised to discover that your sister car is silver also. Lately, I have discussions with several members about sister (twins) cars being the same color. You provide another excellent example! I wonder if Nissan, in the begining, produced cars that were the same color in groups of two or three or if this is just coincidence. Does anyone know of triplets?

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    There might be someting to that. I saw 810 2dr. #1442 in the in the junkyard about 5 years ago and it was the same code 609 brown as mine #1443. And these are 1979s. Could just be coincidence but I think the real coincidence is that I came across it.
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    Hi,

    Thank you 26th-Z and sblake01, I also imagine when the Z was assembled in the factory. There is a good reference, Mr. Watanabe who owns a 1969 Z432, he has been tracking chassis number and color of Z432 in Japan. Currently he confirmed 80 Z432s still existing in Japan(one or two were shipped to abroad maybe). Most of them are still running on the road, even including 9 Z432-Rs.Here is a link, http://www.geocities.jp/ps30diy/genzon/kekka.html
    (you need to translate this page to English)

    You can see same color gropes quite often. Especially Z432-R were produced as an block which contain 4 or 5 cars.

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    Hi,

    Now Japan is in a long holidays, very nice sunny day so I have done some works for my Z432.

    My Z432 had been using OEM new master vac hose, but it was not cloth-braided. How everyone is doing about master vac hose? I have never seen NOS one in the EBAY since I have joined it in 2002.

    So, I made it. It is not an OEM, it is a fake. But it looks pretty good shape is not it??

    I use a NOS fuel hose, and a brass rod. That is all.The rod can be anything if it has enough strength to bend the hose and keep its shape.
    Just cut the rod appropriately and let it go through the hose. Then you can bend the hose as much as you satisfy, now you go it. Just apply the hose to its original place, the rod is sitting inside with out problems.

    My 240Z has done same thing and still without problem ,4 years has passed.

    And the temp/oil gage, my Z432 got NOS one but it is for 1972 or 73. Indication scale is different, later gage does not have white center reference(actually for the water,it is not in center though)

    So I replaced later scale to original re-conditioned ones.Only facing was replaced.

    Heater panel label,Mikuni carb label,are in place. Did I show the battery? Fairlady cars have a small battery not like exported cars, the battery hard ware is completely different.

    Thank you,

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    pictures of Z432's battery.

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    Kats,
    Every time I think how wonderful and amazing your car is, you do some more to it, and it actually improves! It is truely amazing that everything you do pushes the standard! I hope that if you ever bring this/these cars to the states again you will let us know long before you travel so that we can make arrangements to travel to see you as well.
    Thanks for taking the time and energy to share your progress and knowledge with us!
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    Hi Kats

    The master vac hose which you have for your Z432 looks to be the same for the RHD specification 240-Z. I am very interested to know what the Nissan part number of the "fuel hose" is which you used to make your reproduction.

    If you could please post the details at your convenience it would be appreciated.

    Thanks again

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    Great pictures, Kats! Brass tubing, eh? Great idea. I have one of those hoses. I'll look and see if it has a part # on it.
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    Thank you so much Will, the highest praise. I am so happy you like it

    Hi Joseph, I was thinking of you,I must tell you this finding and the part number before Chris tells us!

    I attached pictures from the U.S. and Canada parts catalog and service manual, also 240Z RHD model catalog for comparison.

    The number is 17239-E4600 , this can be seen in the illustration page , the hose is #18.The illustrated shape is different from the actual part, but it is just matter in this catalog.

    Joseph, you can buy this hose on Ebay I saw this quite often. Or try some Z shop like Motorsport/Banzai motorworks/e.t.c. I will try local Nissan dealer in Japan if they have or not.

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    The third day in my holiday:

    I painted white scale on the water/oil gage by myself!! Not so good but not so bad.Yesterday I replaced new gage face plates to its old originals.But I felt something uneasy. The amp/fuel gage and the clock are nos,so they are very white in their scale/letters.The old one is yellowish due its aging.
    Then I decided to paint the white dot and tomorrow I will remove heater system and the gage again

    I also replace a horn pad,Z432's pad was cracked,so a new DTSUN pad became a donor,I removed the Z432 center metal badge and applied it to the new pad. Z432's badge is special,the letter of Z is painted red inlay.

    Radiator fan protector,my Z432 did not come with it. Z432's radiator is made of aluminum, and the protector is attached by screws not welded.But the shape is the same of all the other S30s. Mr.Nishi reproduced it , I painted by myself.


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    Hi Kats

    Thanks for thinking of me and also thanks for posting the Nissan part number of the particular hose as I requested.

    Do you have any smart ideas as to how to make a copy of the other master vac hose; ie the one which runs from the check valve to the balance tube? Any ideas as to a hose which I could use?

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    Hi Joseph,

    Now I realized that there are two types of the hose,valve to manifold for RHD S30.And you could not apply the hose to your car, I am sorry about that.
    Let's find good ideas for it,if you have pictures of your car,please let us see.It will be some good help to think about.

    I made a video link for 8TRACK operation of Z432.Please enjoy it.
    I have a multi-recorder deck , I made favorite song tapes.

    http://www.geocities.jp/datsunz903/z432audio.html

    I did installed NOS but later gage facing (I painted white scale) , it was a hard work for me.

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    Thanks for the pictures and videos.
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    As far as I know, Kats, very few people have one of the 8-track decks for their Z. This is one of those things the Japanese got that the American export version did not. Very nice video.
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    Was an 8 track standard on any of the Japanese models? It looks like it was an Option to be ordered.

    The people in Japan that ordered the optional 8 Track got it. The people in the US that ordered the optional 8 Track got it. We sold several of them... More usual however was for customers to buy 8 Tracks in the after-market, for lower prices and/or more options like AM/FM Stereo 8 Tracks with higher output power.

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    I am sure very few people have them today. It's hard to find 8-Track tapes that will still run. They had a little piece of foam rubber in them - to hold the tape against the read heads - and most foam rubber pads today simply turn to dust, and will no longer run without wrapping themselves around the power drive. (I keep trying however).

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    Quote Originally Posted by kats View Post
    I have a multi-recorder deck , I made favorite song tapes.
    .......
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    Hi Kats:
    Did you find/buy new blank 8-Track Tapes for recording? Or did you rebuild older pre-recorded 8-Track Tapes?

    thanks,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl Beck View Post
    I am sure very few people have them today. It's hard to find 8-Track tapes that will still run.
    Here's a SUPER rare Japanese market dealer accessory that I feel sure the USA market did not get ( for humanitarian reasons ):
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    I knew Carl waZ tallented-personally I think he has more than a passing resemblance to Elvis!
    If you saw the way he was moving around his rally car on a weekend in the wind, you would understand!
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    Carl,

    8-track tapes are quite available, new and used. I have a brand new Datsun option 8-track player for the head unit in a 510. Interested? I'll even throw in "Alice's Restaurant". Frankly, it's more difficult to find an original player like Kats' that still works. Mine works.

    (Edit) BTW the part # for the player I have is 99993-00206-80 "8 track deck" universal chassis. Brand new in the Datsun box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HS30-H View Post
    Here's a SUPER rare Japanese market dealer accessory that I feel sure the USA market did not get ( for humanitarian reasons ):
    and for anyone that does have one - for a reasonable fee I'll autograph it for you !!

    that is just too funny...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 26th-Z View Post
    Carl,

    8-track tapes are quite available, new and used.
    Hi Chris:
    Is that "new" as in New Old Stock - I had several of them, and all suffered from the foam rubber pads falling apart. Or is that "new" as in recently produced? I think my player is fine - and if they produced new tapes within the last couple years I'd sure give them a try.

    Quote Originally Posted by 26th-Z View Post
    I have a brand new Datsun option 8-track player for the head unit in a 510. Interested? I'll even throw in "Alice's Restaurant". Frankly, it's more difficult to find an original player like Kats' that still works. Mine works.

    (Edit) BTW the part # for the player I have is 99993-00206-80 "8 track deck" universal chassis. Brand new in the Datsun box.
    The 9999 indicates an after-market, locally sourced part - sold though Nissan USA and its Authorized Dealers. Still a very rare part to find NOS... I'm afraid my 510 no longer has its OEM radio... PO changed it out...

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    Thank you watching,

    Chris,it seems to me that 8 track is not so rare in Japanese Z, in my opinion most of S30 has 8 track. For me, the rarest featuring of japanese S30 is, Non- audio car.How about in all the other country? I saw some exported S30 does not have an audio system, they just have a plastic "pocket" insted of a radio.

    Carl, the multi recoder deck and the red 8 track NOS blank tapes(5 or so) were given from Mr. Kakimi who is also a pilot(captain) of All Nippon Airways.
    He used to own Fairlady 240ZG and Datsun 280Z , but they both are sold.

    The tape , top cover said " Radio Shack" you know this do not you?
    The Captain Kakimi said he bought the tapes in the U.S. in some 10 years ago.

    Alan, does your 240ZG also have a 8 Track, does not it? And I want to know the meaning of your fumor, but I could not because I am Japanese...

    I will look for some original 1970 8 Track tape in the auction, like Jimi hendricks, or Ozaki kiyohiko as an Japanese singer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kats View Post
    ...it seems to me that 8 track is not so rare in Japanese Z, in my opinion most of S30 has 8 track. For me, the rarest featuring of japanese S30 is, Non- audio car.How about in all the other country? I saw some exported S30 does not have an audio system, they just have a plastic "pocket" insted of a radio.

    ...

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    Kats,
    This is the "pocket" that was used here-I have only seen two-including this one. One was in a parts car I bought-or rather, what was left of it was in the car. Then, early last year, I found this NOS one and bought it immediately.
    Will

    PS. I took the picture with the part upside down to show the details of the embossing clearer-from right side up the flash obliterated much of the detail.
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    That's pretty cool, Will. I don't think I have ever seen one of those before. And here I am thinking I'm all the tits for having an 8-track!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 26th-Z View Post
    ...And here I am thinking I'm all the tits for having an 8-track!
    Chris,
    At least you can borrow and play that tape from Alan!
    I brought the "pocket" and some other goodies down to Autoway last year to show you, but the show was too good to break from.
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    Will, great staff!!That is the one which I am talking about.

    At least two Vintage Z program cars have that pocket, because I saw those cars in some Japanese car magazines which are introducing Vintage Z program.

    I guess 240Z in the U.S. had no- choice of audio system, they all got radio as a standard, did not they?

    Japanese Zs/ Europe 240Z and some other exported 240Z had choice,few people made a choice and got that pocket, I think.

    Will, what the part number is the pocket? XXXXX-E4100?

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    Alan, does your 240ZG also have a 8 Track, does not it? And I want to know the meaning of your fumor, but I could not because I am Japanese...
    Hi Kats,

    Don't worry about 'getting' my little joke. I'll try to explain it to you next time I see you.

    Yes my 240ZG originally came with an 8 Track, but it now has a 'dummy' radio and I donated the 8 track to somebody who is hopefully going to actually use it in a car. Much better than sitting on a dark shelf in my garage.

    Those original 8 Track sets are SO heavy!

    If you can find me any original Japanese 8 Track tapes by Speed, Glue & Shinki, Flower Travellin' Band, Les Rallizes Denudes or The Jacks then
    I might be tempted to get another unit and install it in the ZG. Gotta keep the sounds 'in period'



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    Will, great staff!!That is the one which I am talking about.

    At least two Vintage Z program cars have that pocket, because I saw those cars in some Japanese car magazines which are introducing Vintage Z program.

    I guess 240Z in the U.S. had no- choice of audio system, they all got radio as a standard, did not they?

    Japanese Zs/ Europe 240Z and some other exported 240Z had choice,few people made a choice and got that pocket, I think.

    Will, what the part number is the pocket? XXXXX-E4100?

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    Kats,

    It is 68835-E4100. I have heard that no cars hit our shores from Japan with out an audio system, and that these "masks" were special order-and like so many of the available pieces overlooked because of the difficulty in finding out about them-not that this one would have been a popular add on anyway.


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    I thought it was the period music that was "Heavy"-at least it was over here!

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    Thanks for the comment about the Vintage Zs, kats. And thanks for the pictures, Will. I would imagine that the thought behind using the pocket in the VZ program cars was along the lines of letting the new owner install their own audio system. By 1997 audio system far surpassed the radio that originally came with the car and would not be preferred.

    I would figure you to be a Rolling Stones man, Alan. Thanks for the ribbing.
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    Hello,

    As Carl pointed out very nicely, there are still many things have to be replaced to original.

    This one is a Wing nut (actually it is a bolt) correct for Z432. The part number is 16516-E4201.

    More to come soon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kats View Post
    Hello,

    As Carl pointed out very nicely, there are still many things have to be replaced to original.

    This one is a Wing nut (actually it is a bolt) correct for Z432. The part number is 16516-E4201.

    More to come soon...

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    Hi Kats. #32 has those same wing nuts on its air cleaner. I'm away from my how today, so I'll post a picture of them tomorrow.

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    Kats,

    Here are the wing nuts on #32. They are the same early style as on your Z432.

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    That's very interesting ! ! !

    I don't think I have those wing nuts.
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    Hi Mike,

    What a great find,HLS30-00032 has 432 wing nuts!! I said 432 wing nuts because the part number is given E4201. But I am not sure this nut is really only for 432. It could be used for other Nissan/DATSUN models.

    This shows us there were something unusual in early days of production does not it? I see the first U.S. 240Z sales brochure, the red car has ordinary wing nuts on the air cleaner box. Anyway what is the VIN for this red car?
    I wish I had a chance to talk to Mr.Jon Parker,I would ask when and how this photo mission was taken.

    Hi Chris, 26th and 27th both have normal wing nuts, great. #32 is an only one exceptional?

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    Hi everyone,

    Did you find my Z432 does not have original vacuum system? It is later type. See the picture,the periodically correct original has tall and hexagonal hat, the sticker "H" means use for High octane gas.
    I am going to install this today.

    Also the bracket for the electrical fuel pump, my Z432's bracket is cut away of lower guard panel I do not know why. Maybe previous owner thought this makes easier to replace the fuel filter.

    Amazing,this bracket is not supplied from Nissan(of cource it is NLA),this is a reproduction by Mr.Nishi. This is a hand made,please see this perfect shape and high quality.
    The part number is 17033-E4200.

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    I love reading this thread...
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    #32 is an only one exceptional?

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    No - I noticed yours because 5 or 6 of the 69 production year cars I've seen still have one or both. AIR #20 had one, and one regular bolt (not even a wing head) in the air cleaner. There are actually two slightly different types with the nut wrapped by the wing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kats View Post
    Hi Mike,
    I see the first U.S. 240Z sales brochure, the red car has ordinary wing nuts on the air cleaner box. Anyway what is the VIN for this red car?
    I wish I had a chance to talk to Mr.Jon Parker,I would ask when and how this photo mission was taken.
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    The Red car is HLS30 00007.

    The photographer that took some of the original pictures of the cars in early Oct. 1969 contacted me some time ago and I now have some of his original negatives and photo's. (he kept the one's that Nissan did not purchase for publication at the time).

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    Do you mean this car?
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    My answer was related to this one....

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    I think that's the same car. Look at the hub caps. How do you know it's #7 ?
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    Hi Chris:
    It could be - but I'm not certain of that. The Red car used in the 69 Sales Sheet - might be the same one, only with the DATSUN emblems now on the front fenders and "D" hubcaps now added. Its possible.

    Here is another 1970 Advertisement (see below image) - that shows the same red car as the 70 Showroom Sales Brochure, taken at the same photo shoot, only this time used for a Magazine Ad instead of for the 70 Showroom Sales Brochure. It was also used to produce a huge Billboard on the LA Freeway.

    Kats mentioned the wing nuts - and the 70 Showroom Sales Brochure (SSB) shows a picture of the engine. So I thought that was the one he was referring too.

    #006, 007 and 008 were expedited from Japan for the Introduction in New York, as well as the rest of the International Auto Show circuit. Also for photo op's. and Ad. Copy etc. On this day they took the red Z for the photo shoot. BSR got the Green car in the SSB #6 after it was damaged, and the silver car in the SSB, #8 went to Bob Speckman when it came off the show circuit. The last known owner of #7 was Ron Cook.

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    Yes, now that I look at the pictures more closely, I can see the D on the hub caps. Not necessarily the same car. I wasn't aware that the very first cars came with D hubcaps. Here is the Road & Track introductory car. No D hub caps. Do you figure this one to be the silver car?

    Note the whitewall tires, Kats?
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    Hi Chris:
    According to Mr. Speckman, **** Roberts told him, his car was the car used for the R&T cover on the Dec. issue. It is possible that one or all three were shipped without the D hubcaps - only to have them put on after arrival here. #6 and #7 seem to have been built in Sept. and #8 the first of Oct.

    It is also possible that some of the very early photo's were of #4 and #5 used in the North American Road Tests by Nissan. They didn't have any identifying trim during the road tests - but that could also have been put on after the fact for the photo shoots.

    Have you found any other pictures of a Z with white-wall's? I was thinking that perhaps they replaced the snow tires on one of the test cars and added the Datsun Emblems and D Hubcaps for the photo shoot....

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    Of course anything is possible, however as highly unlikely as that farce about Mr. K ripping the Fairlady emblems off at the docks. The North American test cars were silver, they had no emblems, and they were returned to Japan. The snow tires were black-walls and the wheels were silver. Have a look at Kats' videos.

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    Ah...yes... I believe I said with the snow tires changed and emblems added.... I was just trying to account for mounting white walls for the original photo.

    Yes that is the most likely the Red Car...... but is it the one in the 69 Brochure as well? I think that is the original question.

    Are you saying that it is also the car on the R&T cover?

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    Carl,
    We're getting way off topic! I really don't know what to say about any of the photos. The people in the Parker photo are the same as the red brochure photo, but they have different clothes on. I see oddities in all the photos from what we are normally used to seeing. I don't think the NA test cars had colored fender light lenses. I see in at least one of the photos that the rear bumper has that rubber end cap that we normally associate with home market cars and the 432. The wheels used for the snow tires on the test cars are like nothing I have seen before. The list goes on and on. The Road & Track article indicates the 240Z came with carpeting, AM radio and rear window defroster. Also, their pictures all show the hand throttle. Point being that I don't think we can expect consistancy with the production of later months.
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    Hi Carl and Chris,
    let's keep going, I love to talk about early chassis number cars.

    I am going to ask about the young man and lady in the brochure,who are they? How old are they now? If we can here about when they were working on that photo mission,it is great , is not it?

    I will post a 1970 press kit, I see there are another man and lady in the picture.
    It seems to me they are different people,different hair style from the brochure.

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    Hi,

    from a press kit for DATSUN 1970(two different types of kit for 1970). A young man and a lady , are they the same of the red car in the U.S. brochure?

    Note the white ribbon tyre,
    not superspeed radial-20,
    no D hubcap,
    Rear bumper corner rubber guard,
    no OK sticker,
    no splash pan
    chrome-Z quater emblem,

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    HI Kats:
    No they are different people. I haven't found anyone that has a record of the models names from that period.

    According to Mr. Speckman, the car that was in the Jan 1970 issue of R&T was his - HLS30 00008 - a Silver Z.

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