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    I am currently applying last coats of undercoat to my 1973 Zed and will be moving to colour in the next week.

    I am painting the car Metallic Green (or similar) but am tossing up whether to apply striping to the bonnet roof and hatch lid along the same vein as the GT40 e.g two thick stripes.

    The stripes colour I was considering was a metallic silver. When I ask the missus of her opinion i get a shrug and "whatever you think" reply.

    I always thought that the car was "too green" and neede something to break it up (will also assist finding it when I park it on the lawn).

    So I turn to the experts (you) and would greatfully appreciate all criticism and encouragement on which is the best way to go. Any links to photos of cars with similar striping would be also appreciated.

    PS - Recently went to the Car Museum in Sacramento California - great place with some really great cars.

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    While not "exactly pure", I like the idea!
    I remember seeing a photo of a 280Z painted with stripes and like what I see.
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    Stripes, as with other paint modifications, tend to be an item that is more in the "Eye of the Beholder" class.

    Done well, they look great...in my opinion. But done poorly they don't, again...my opinion. What defines great and poor is where the individual's perception lies.

    I painted the lower rocker panel and the flat portion of the wheel openings in black and then highlighted with a thin gold stripe. I've had comments ranging from "Gaudy" to "Looks Sharp!" to "It's your car, do what you want!", so you can see what you can expect. I've also had people "recall" that that was the way they came from the factory!

    I was looking to repaint the rocker panels after having sanded off the rock chips. The paint I had matched, although a good match, would not have stretched to doing both rocker panels. Black Gloss was available on the shelf and considerably cheaper than having a quart of paint mixed up.

    Afterwards, I kind of liked it, and it blends in well with the molded mud flaps. When I repaint the car, I may or may not keep the black. That's half the fun of painting!

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    The one I saw had "fatter" stripes, however as E wrote, everyone has different perception...
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    The stripes in the link provided by KTM look pretty darn GOOD! (IMO).

    The offset color and the width balance to the rest of the body make them look correct. Then again, those are some healthy wheel flares!

    That's half the "fun" in doing stripes, too thin and they won't look right, too wide and again they won't look right, and once again...the eye of the beholder.

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    Thanks guys - you are all correct regarding "if you like it do it" opinion. Personally I like them but once they are on it would be expensive to turn back and fix the problem hence I was looking for some consensus or "dont be an idiot" opinions.

    The pics provided by KTM is exactly the look I was hoping to achieve (without the flares though). That car looks great.

    I am leaning towards the stripes.

    Correction - the car museum I went to was in Reno and not Sacramento. Got it confused with all the old stars cars such as Al Jolson, John Wayne, etc. The museum is sponsored by some Casino owner but cannot recall the name.

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    I like the example shown in the earlier thread. I say go for it! I personally like 1/4" pinstripes on either side of the big stripes too. I had seriously thought about doing that to mine as well...but got lazy after applying all those other coats of paint. However, now that it's all done. I may go back in there one day and have at it...Good Luck with your decision.
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    I went with the zzzap! stripes on my car when I was spraying it. I liked them better than the "rally" style stripes.
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    Talking To each their own...

    Hey, whatever floats your boat...

    I'm not a big fan of the "racing stripes" on the Z. On the other hand, I do tend to like variations of the BRE paint scheme. I've attached a pic of a fella's car up here in New York. I really like the colors he chose. I also like the 1/4" outlining pinstripe that candyblue refered to but I feel like that would look very out of place on a Z. That seem's to be more of a American Muscle Car thing, but I'd have to see it on a Z before I made I final judgement. See the picture of the Chevelle for reference.

    Another thing I like are Ghost stripes/flames, when the graphic is just a slightly different tint than the base color. Done right you can hardly tell it's there, except from certain angles. Attached a pic of a Cobra that show's what I mean.
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    ktm that a beautiful car that silver Z with the stripes.

    I stuck mine one, at least you have the option of easily removing them. These have been on the car for years and i've used high pressure washer on them many times.
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    Hey...Whatever floats your boat....I kind of like the "Ghost Stripes" myself. I kind of think "Silver MetalFlake" might look really good if done in a tastefull way...But hey...that's just my 2 cents worth...Do what ever makes you happy...It's your CAR...


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    Toecutter, I truly wish that the car was mine. It is an absolute beauty though. It is one of the few Zs with stripes that I like. I personally have considered doing the early Corvette Stingray cowl stripe with an offset pin stripe
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    veritech, I like your paint scheme. It's different, but in a good way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pir0San View Post
    veritech, I like your paint scheme. It's different, but in a good way.
    Thanks! If you search around at hybridz, you'll probably come across the camo themed BRE paint job I designed for a member there by the name of chewievette. A lot of people liked that one too.
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    Default silver 240z looks great!

    Wow that silver 240z with the BRE stripes is nice.
    Do you have any pictures from back futher to get a view of the car as a whole???
    I'd like to see if how the dark grey is finnished up on top of the bonnet and how the car looks from side on. I love the BRE stripes and plan to do them on my car but I don't particularly like the entire top of the car being two tone. I've been thinking of fadeing the top stripes into the same colour and the body as they curve over the top of the gaurd but I don't know how hard that is, or whether it would look any good.
    I saw a picture of a datsun 2000 sports roadster with the BRE stripes continue as two thick stripes over the bonnet and down the other side. Wasn't a good enough photo to make up my mind whether I liked it or not.
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    Shamus-

    Sorry, I don't have any other pictures of the silver Z. The darker color runs all the way back like a regular BRE, though. It really, really looks awesome in person! It also has the go to match the show, It's got a tripple carbed Rebello stroker.
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    There are some good ideas to be had.

    I like the silver Zed with the maroon stripes which really sets it off but i am not sure if I am game enough to take that on.

    Worth a second though from the Camaro stripes though.

    Will load the pics of how it is going. Whilst i am not out to impress anyone, I still like the "hey that looks like a smart Zed". It might be my car but who wants to drive around in something that looks shoddy and stands out as "a junky Datsun".

    Thanks for the help guys

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    biker,

    I'm pretty sure you're talking about the Harrah's automobile museum right?
    I love that place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbo240 View Post
    biker,

    I'm pretty sure you're talking about the Harrah's automobile museum right?
    I love that place.
    Thats the one - I knew it sounded like a chocolate bar.

    I went ahead with the stripes on the paint job - am I happy - umm not sure. They look okay but not the exactly the way I would have liked them which is much the same as the blue Z in earlier posts. Yet to finish the whole job which is about two weeks away.

    Then maybe its just that I am not happy unless I have something to whinge about.

    Will post pics and let you be the judge

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    Well the stripes are on the and car is buffed back.

    In all and given that it is my first spray job, it did not turn out half bad.

    I went with a GM pearlescent green as the base colour.

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    That green looks sensational biker! Good choice.

    Personally I am not a fan of the "GT40" stripes on a Z. It's a really personal thing I think.

    I hope it's just my eye, or the picture, but the stripes on the bonnet don't look straight?

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    Oh man those stripes look WAY off. Were you pissed when you laid them out? I hope it's just the picture too....but it's doesn't look that way.
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    Hey Biker, I've only seen one green on a Z and it was leaning towards British Racing Green...Not very pretty IMO. Your green is one that will catch everyones eyes, like it or not. I like it!!! As for the stripes not being perfect enough for some of you out there, I suggest you try doing it sometime, it's not as easy as you think, and going over hood scoops and body lines can be all the more challenging. For a first time effort, I'll give you an A for just having the nads to try it. I've done quite a few stripe jobs like this over the years and believe me when I tell you, they don't come cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CANDYBLUE2+2 View Post
    ...believe me when I tell you, they don't come cheap.
    Nor Easy....especially for a first time.

    Theres a couple of ways to "fix" the irregularities, it all depends on what you want to do.

    One is to overlay a different stripe over the edge between the two, taking painstaking care that it's perfectly straight TO THE BODY and not to the stripe as that is what you are trying to fix. You could use vinyl striping tape to do this, or you could use paint

    The second is to simply re-paint the stripe.

    I like both colors you used. Definitely an eye catching green and it is a pleasant shade at that! The silver does look good on it.

    The picture straight on to the front of the car is the one that makes it look as though the stripes were done in sections and/or by leaning over the car while doing this. Additionally, the reflection makes it look as though the passenger side is closer to the center line of the hood than the driver's side.

    If you plan on re-painting the stripes, or just add a contrast (and edge blurring/blending) stripe, then instead of applyng the masking tape bit by bit, tape down one end of it, then carefully holding it taut- sight down the tape looking past the tape to the hood. I would do this standing at the front of the car, wiht the anchor point being at the top of the hood closest to the windshield...or even at the top of the cowl. Slowly bring the tape down, keeping it perfectly straight until it just starts to touch the first high point. At that point, reach out and touch and press down on the tape...gently. Then continue sighting for the remainder of the tape. Do the same for the other side / stripe. Step back, and CRITICALLY evaluate the edges. Don't use a straight edge or other mechanical device...this is where your EYE is the tool. Once you have them straight, then rub the tape down to press it on firmly.

    Hope this helps.
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    Thanks for the advice and encouragement guys.

    The stripes in the photo do look off over the top of the bonnet but it is the angle of the camera (I had to look twice myself).

    My wife and I laid the guide tape and I was quite happy to use my eye but she was pedantic and measured the line spacing at every 200mm. I was nearly pulling my hair out and in frustration stuffed up the rear stripe below the bumper bar. Ended up fixing that problem okay. However, I had to cut my losses as I was starting to get disenchanted.

    After several months of painting and sanding and painting and sanding etc etc i was glad to see the back of the job. I can always respray it quite easily as I now have a decent base to work with.


    Would I do it again - umm yep. I learnt a lot along the way and am sure that a spray job can be done in several weeks rather than several months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EScanlon View Post
    Nor Easy....especially for a first time.

    Theres a couple of ways to "fix" the irregularities, it all depends on what you want to do.

    One is to overlay a different stripe over the edge between the two, taking painstaking care that it's perfectly straight TO THE BODY and not to the stripe as that is what you are trying to fix. You could use vinyl striping tape to do this, or you could use paint

    The second is to simply re-paint the stripe.

    I like both colors you used. Definitely an eye catching green and it is a pleasant shade at that! The silver does look good on it.

    The picture straight on to the front of the car is the one that makes it look as though the stripes were done in sections and/or by leaning over the car while doing this. Additionally, the reflection makes it look as though the passenger side is closer to the center line of the hood than the driver's side.

    If you plan on re-painting the stripes, or just add a contrast (and edge blurring/blending) stripe, then instead of applyng the masking tape bit by bit, tape down one end of it, then carefully holding it taut- sight down the tape looking past the tape to the hood. I would do this standing at the front of the car, wiht the anchor point being at the top of the hood closest to the windshield...or even at the top of the cowl. Slowly bring the tape down, keeping it perfectly straight until it just starts to touch the first high point. At that point, reach out and touch and press down on the tape...gently. Then continue sighting for the remainder of the tape. Do the same for the other side / stripe. Step back, and CRITICALLY evaluate the edges. Don't use a straight edge or other mechanical device...this is where your EYE is the tool. Once you have them straight, then rub the tape down to press it on firmly.

    Hope this helps.
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    Thank you John!

    Not a school teacher, just someone who's been through a couple of "mills" as the saying goes, and just trying to pass on some of the knocks I've received as subtle pushes...hopefully to help someone avoid the knock entirely.

    If I can describe something, a process, a procedure or even a "look" and YOU as a reader can replicate or visualize what I write...then I've done a good job.

    Again, Thanks.
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    I like the Z's just the way they came from factory but, stuff like stripes & wheels that could easily be put back later seem pretty cool.

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    not a big stripe fan of any kind, but i do like the look of the fender stripes like the ones coastgaurdz posted.

    There is however another stripe that is just fantast.



    with green being your base color, you could have a white thick stripe and then a perfect yellow or a bronze.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianL1987 View Post
    I like the Z's just the way they came from factory but, stuff like stripes & wheels that could easily be put back later seem pretty cool.
    Thanks for reviving a 3 year old thread.
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    I really like the color combo that is sharp. If I knew these were the stripes you would be looking at I'd posted some ideas. That is a hard one to pull off, the hood shape makes it hard from some angles, even if they are straight it will look off. I've thought in my head with that long hood it would look great, but that bump-out causes trouble If your satisfied I'd keep it it still looks really good.

    Now if you want to change it hears an idea. I knew a guy with a 240z in the 70's that he raced and he did the same stripe and hated it. What he did next is what I saw pictures of and I loved the look. His car was red with whites stripes, so what he did was paint it so the stripe from the windshield forward was one stripe. then painted the top of the bump area Flat black (he wanted to paint it red, but he didn't think he would get a close enough match). Then he had it pinstriped like the Bob Sharp editions, but adding a line from the from the front of the car to the lower part of the bump on the hood with red paint, and painted 240z on the side of the bump. The Bob Sharp special editions on the 280z they pinstriped the botom edge and the top edge of the bump and painted 280z in the middle with gold leaf between the pinstripes.

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