vz on ebay

[zhead240]

these don't come up often.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-Z-Series-240-Z-Dealership-Restored-1970-240Z-Factory-A-C_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6187QQihZ015QQitemZ25 0273972425QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
i don't see the console plack or the 1/4 window sticker indicating this is a program restored zed. plus u wouldn't think they would use a half dash cap.
right now there's 3 potential $30 grand zeds on ebay.

[MikeW]

While the ad talks about the vintage Z program and infers that this car is somehow related it clearly indicates that it was restored by a specific dealership before any of the actual vintage cars even arrived.

[zhead240]

then this in not a vintage program zed. very misleading.

[Carl Beck]

It most certainly is NOT A VZ - nor does the seller claim it is. Just said that it was done around that time by a local Dealer...

That is a very nice 240-Z. "Refreshed" by the Dealer would be a more accurate term. Obvious flaws considered - anything under $20K would be a reasonable price for a very nice #3 condition Series I 240-Z.


Start with a five thousand dollar 240-Z in good condition today, do everything that has been done to that one - and you would be lucky to get it done for less than an additional $25K.

$8K complete paint and body
$3K rebuild the engine
$1K new clutch assy, master and slave cylinders
$1K rebuild the brake system with new rear wheel cylinders etc.
$3K replace all weatherstripping/seals
$2K new tires, shocks and original "D" hubcaps on OEM steel wheels.
$2K rechrome or replace the font/rear bumpers
$2K rebuild the seats and reupholster - add new carpet
$1K replace all rubber fuel, vapor and water lines
$1K replace the exhaust system
$1K replace all emblems, door handles, and the mirror
$1K A/C, radiator shroud and new fan clutch

$26K and you have just scratched the surface - - plus the cost of the car to begin with.. can counting nothing for a couple years of your labor...

FWIW,
Carl B.

[psdenno]

Deceptively written description of the car's place in history, nonetheless.

Too much overspray in the engine compartment, broken switch on the engine compartment "trouble light", and a few other things need attention. But, it photographs well.
Dennis

[Fun_in_my_z]

It is a very nice car however.

Like Mr. Beck said. I doubt you could build one cheaper then that

[Go240Zags]

Where's the 'air conditioning?'

[sblake01]

Where's the 'air conditioning?'It's there.

[26th-Z]

Yea, that's not a Vintage Z and for a moment, I thought perhaps it might be one of the "ghost" cars I'm looking for. Not so. However, while we're discussing it, I'm looking for serial #s
HLS30-01499
HLS30-01613
HLS30-03022
HLS30-04295
HLS30-05779
HLS30-09965
HLS30-11416
HLS30-23537
HLS30-23732
HLS30-27464
HLS30-53543
HLS30-55472
HLS30-66068
HLS30-73891
HLS30-80272
HLS30-86831
HLS30-87801
Some of these cars are Vintage Zs and some of them have been referenced in literature I have but do not appear on any lists of cars completed.

Thanks

[cbudvet]

I think I could see the knob for the AC in one of the pictures underneath the ignition? It seems a weird location. I am used to seeing it tacked on to the side of the console. I didn't think it was a factory option but a dealer accessory.

carl

[MikeW]

It was not a factory option. That's just another misleading statement in the ad for an otherwise very nice car. When people lie knowingly or unknowingly it makes me skeptical about anything else they have to say.

[Go240Zags]

It's there.

What I meant to say, but didn't, was "Where's the 'factory' air conditioning?"

[barth4567]

I will say that I do agree with most everything that is stated here about this car. It is a nice car ,however there is a bunch of cars that different people own on this site that put it to shame. I have owned Z cars ( Three) over a period of thirty years and do know alot about them. That being said I do not consider myself to be an "Expert". My 1972 is pretty much a daily driver and my engine compartment puts that one to shame. There are cars on this site that you could eat out of the engine compartment, they are so clean. It just does not add up on this car.
As for all the money you an spend on one of these it could be virtually endless if A. You have that kind of money B. You have the money and do not want to or cannot do the work.I am not a mechanic but I have saved thousands of dollars by doing the work myself or with the help of my friends. Granted I took things apart and put them together again more than once, but It made me a better mechanic than I was. There are alot of people out there including on this site that have been ripped off bigtime for everything from parts to paint. It is at least for me far more satisfying to do all the work I can on my car. Plus it saves me a ton of money,that I can use for my paint work. I am not a painter.:stupid: Not going there.
So that is my two cents worth on this car and all the money you can spend on a car.I have a great little car that gets alot of compliments and it is still a project in the works. And the nice part about it is that it has been fun doing the work and I really have not spent close to the kind of money mentioned in another post. Lastly I have to say that I am grateful for this website and everyone on here. It has helped me untold times. Not one of us is as smart as all of us.:D[/SIZE][/SIZE]

[Carl Beck]

My 1972 is pretty much a daily driver and my engine compartment puts that one to shame.

Could you post some pictures of your engine compartment - so we could see the difference?

thanks,
Carl B.

[barth4567]

Could you post some pictures of your engine compartment - so we could see the difference?

thanks,
Carl B.

I will have my friend get a picture and have him help me post it. It will not be today. I am not trying to offend you or anyone else. I will say what I see to be wrong on a "restored car".Engine compartment light is broken,valve cover is dull and lifeless,hoses are worn,rust on starter, the whole thing just does not look anymore than average at best. If that motor has been in fact detailed ,they better find somebody new.The whole thing looks lifeless under the hood. That being said the outside looks alot better than mine. Also this car has been for sale before.Again I am not trying to offend any one, and if I have I apologize. John

[Carl Beck]

Hi John:
It is not my car and I saw nothing offensive in your Post - just wanted to have a couple pictures to compare - so we could all see the same thing and discuss the differences. In effect I wanted to "see" what you "see" when looking at your engine compartment.

I think we all pretty much agree that the e-bay car is not a "restored" example, but rather one that has been "refreshed".

FWIW,
Carl B.

[barth4567]

Hi John:
It is not my car and I saw nothing offensive in your Post - just wanted to have a couple pictures to compare - so we could all see the same thing and discuss the differences. In effect I wanted to "see" what you "see" when looking at your engine compartment.

I think we all pretty much agree that the e-bay car is not a "restored" example, but rather one that has been "refreshed".

FWIW,
Carl B.
Thanks for that Carl. I guess what I was trying to say was the car looked pretty good overall for the most part. I just thought the engine compartment was pretty sad, considering they were talking about that much money. I have been under mine all day doing a headlight and wiring upgrade. It is still not done. I will get a picture or two posted when I can get my friend to help me. I am pretty clueless in that area. As for my car if I could just save enough money to get a decent paint job I would be more than happy. It has primer gray spots all over it. Just takes money and time. Thanks John

[26th-Z]

I have to agree with the point about the engine bay. Filthy! Don't you think "refreshed" would include painting the air filter?

On the other hand, there are some interesting features about the car. I copied a whole bunch of the pictures and set up a file. Quite a few interesting early parts and quite a few incorrect things. Would be happy to discuss what I see.

[Poindexter]

How about them Home Depot hose clamps, huh?

[Mike B]

Quite a few interesting early parts and quite a few incorrect things.

Ok Chris, let's hear about the interesting early parts.

-Mike

[WDILL]

Its great reading everyone's comments on this car. my Z is #3435 with eng 6302 built the same month as this one and the same colars. Mine is currently in parts waiting for paint. Hope to have it complete by the end of the year. i'm sending the ebay info and pics to the shop doing my restoration as we get down to puttiny it back together plus finding needed parts. It will have a vintage AC system and will not be a 100% restoration. Monitor the progress at rodshopofmemphis.com. The hard part is I'll probable have about $30,000 in the car when complete, about what Carl B. estimated.

Wally

[titmouse88]

Hello

I'm looking at the 240 on Ebay Is it worth it or not. What are the things that are right about it and what are the things that are wrong about it?

Thanks

Paul

[hls30.com]

What is wrong depends on what you expect.
If you are looking for a car comparable to the vintage Z program cars, this is a good starting place-assuming the bodywork was done right-The first thing I would want to see is the itemized bill from Courtesy Nissan-I think much of the work was done "elsewhere" and covered by an assumption that it was done by the dealer.
1) Interior needs some love. Dash cap-half version, cracks in console, map light surround, quarter window trims(also installed wrong-I doubt Courtesy Nissan did that), and rear trims. Rear tower trim on Pass side seems to be losing paint on the upper seam.
2) Exterior A bullet hole in a hubcap? Wrong Power antenna, horrible taping job on the door jam plate?
3) As Chris needs lots of love(time) and new/replacement parts/plating/stickers under the hood-leading me to believe it had far more of a tuneup than an overhaul-engine is just way too dirty for 4k miles since a refresh(unless rings/head work is all that was done.) what is up with the fender data plate
4) boots missing from hatch hinges.
5) New undercoating with obvious voids/runs on the picture-warrants thorough checkout.

Far too many details left alone to be in the ballpark with a 4k mile Vintage Z-much less a reputable dealer restoration, looks like an owner refreshed driver with nice exterior paint. A good place to start probably, but needs serious checkout and another 5 or 6k to have someone put it right for the stock class-as Chris said, several parts earlier than the car(could be sold to offset some of the cost of those that are needed) I would say it is close to its value if all is as it looks at 15k.
Will

[titmouse88]

So, would you say the $16,500 would be too much for this 240?

Paul

[Carl Beck]

I said at Post #4 anything under $20K would be reasonable for this car. Will said it is close to value at $15K......

Too much for who? With cars like this - what one is worth at any pont in time, is really a personal decision. Seriously - within a reasonable price range - - say $15K to $20K - - trying to pin down an exact number is really futile. You either want it or you don't ... and if you want it, then $1.5K shouldn't really make or break that buying decision.

We all have our personal level of pain when it comes to purchases. If one has a budget of $15K that can not be exceeded - -then for that person $16,500.00 is TOO MUCH.

On top of that - other factors abound. With the car in Texas - perhaps some people can pay $18K for the car - but when the costs of transporting it, or going to get it are added - it pushes the total price past the budget breaking point for them.... So location factors in, as do State Sales Taxes, Insurance and License fees etc etc.

I kind of think what something is worth - is a personal decision. By the time the auction ends we may indeed see what its market value is - at that point in time. That will be, at that point in time only.. as even the market value of these cars fluctuates weekly or monthly... All you can do is watch the market "price range" of these cars. Over the past ten years the "average" market price range his moved constantly up... past that point it becomes a personal decision for each individual about each individual example.

FWIW:
Carl B.

[titmouse88]

Thanks Carl. You have given me something to think about. I haven't owned a Z in over 20 years so I'm not up to speed on what is going on in the market.

Paul

[26th-Z]

Geeze Will, you picked up a lot of things!

So, what's up with that fuel pump? I've never seen one like that.

In terms of "early" parts:
Map Light (no hood)
Center Vent (no vertical fins)
Defroster Switch (unlit)
Coat Hook Buttons
Lights / Wiper Wand

Notice the screws at the bottom of the door panels.
I don't see any seat belt hooks - should be on the seats or screwed to the window post.
Shift boot is the later style.
Nice reupholster of the seats. They look like very nice.
Notice the position of the luggage strap buckle.
Stock muffler - should it be silver or black?
Tow hooks are all in place
Chromed metal gas door knob - notice how clamping it closed forces the fitment on the gas door.
See the dab of black next to the hatch vent? I'll bet the hatch vents are glued in place rather than pinned. Makes me wonder what condition the "hoovers" are in.

At the time of this post, it's rather late to say this. If I were going to spend $20,000 on a hobby car, I'ld go look at it first. Nice car tho.

[Arne]

So, what's up with that fuel pump? I've never seen one like that.Chris, I've seen a fair number of those fuel pumps lately. Obviously some style of aftermarket pump. Seems to becoming almost common in the past couple of years. There was even one on one of my parts cars, IIRC. Don't know who makes them.

[Carl Beck]

Hi Guys:
I'm not sure what is meant by "early car"... but this car has a build date of 04/70...

Courtesy did buy the car and they did have it refreshed - I don't know what all was done in-house vs what was sent out... but they are a pretty big Dealership and I'm sure they could have done all of it in-house if they wanted too.

The body on the car was in amazingly good condition when Courtesy bought it - somewhere in my archives I have pictures of the car at shows in Texas, before it was bought by Courtesy. There really wasn't much to do other than refresh the exterior paint..

I also mention that I've dealt with the guys at Courtesy since about 1990.. because they actually had Parts Counter People that owned and drove 240-Z's themselves!! So at least several of the people at Courtesy know a lot about the 240-Z's and loved them. Nevertheless - we have to keep in mind that it was the Sales Dept. that had this car refreshed...

To me at least - the main area that needs lots of work and money - is the engine and engine compartment. I think its OK for a "refresh".. not really GOOD.. just OK. 10 years ago, if you took your 240-Z into almost any shop and told them to overhaul the engine - the mechanics would do just that. Most mechanics would then put the engine back in the car and got it running. Most of them would not have worried much about the cosmetics, because most customers at point were cheap skates ;-)

Today, if a shop pulls an engine out of a "Classic 240-Z" - most of them would worry a bit more about the cosmetics. Because the customer are more willing to pay for that now...

So to Paul's question - what's wrong with this car - every hose clamp, almost every hose, ugly block that needs repaint, all the fuel, brake and clutch hard lines should be re-plated; as well as every nut, bolt and several other accessory parts - like the hood prop. Yep, wrong fuel pump, broken inspection light. Studs and Nuts on the shock towers. Lacking all the proper stickers... As well as a bunch of other stuff. Still mostly all cosmetic in nature..

But then, how far can you go toward "as it left the dealership" with a refresh, before you are attempting to do a restoration? Everyone has to make up their own mind.... Nonetheless, most of us would want even a proper refresh - to be cleaner and more uniform in over-all approach and execution today.

The new owner can take this car home - and enjoy incrementally upgrading every detail. To many of the enthusiasts that is 80% of the fun. They like dinking with the car and gaining the personal satisfaction that every correction, every upgrade done by ourselves brings.

This is a #3 Car for the Enthusiast.... what is wrong or right in terms of cosmetics will have to be determined by the next owner...

I also agree - if your spending that kind of money - you really should physically inspect the car yourself.

Just my thoughts...
Carl B.

[26th-Z]

Thanks Arne. I'm "aghast"! Makes this hobby a little scary!

I'm using the "early car" term rather loosely. True, the serial # is higher than we would normally consider early, but a 4/70 build isn't that far off. I would imagine the car should have chrome Zs instead of the white Zs. In terms of missing engine bay decals, there should be an emissions decal on the hood, one on the brake servo, and one on the radiator. I don't think this car would have had decals on the air filter. It obviously has not been restored and there seems to be no trace of an old one. I find that to be a common mistake. Also, the proper hose clamps should be rounded phillips head screws and zinc plated. Not cad with a hex head like I so commonly see. I'll bet when the engine was out that the engine bay was wiped down with lacquer thinner or acetone. That will take the paint off the number plate.

[Sailor Bob]

Shouldn't the fan be aluminum/rivetted as opposed to the later plastic type?

[Mike B]

It looks like the radiator fan guard has been cut off. Maybe when the shroud was installed? Also it looks like a poor job of trying to restore the chrome strips on the door panels with foil tape.

As for early parts it looks like it has the correct rear plastic interior panel with no access holes.

-Mike

[hls30.com]

Carl Said pretty much what my answer was. I normally give a 20% window of what I would pay for a car. At 20% of 15k the window is 12-18k. Below the median it is a good-even a great buy, at the median it is a fair trade, above, and someone really wants that car. All of this assumes the chassis/sheet metal checks out.

The car looks like a great starting point, probably a refresh that was started by a serious enthusiast, and for what ever reason, finished by someone with no particular love of Zs to turn for a quick profit(the finishing details simply aren't up to the appearance of the early work).
What ever the last person/company did will have to be discovered and most probably be redone, and what was left undone will have to be addressed.
Will

PS Chris, I had a list, but just put in the highlights...I keep getting logged out if I type too long...

[MikeW]

Winning bid: US $16,600.00

[titmouse88]

Hello.

I took into account what everybody said here about the Z and asked the seller to withdraw my bid. The auction is now finished and it sold for $16,600. With taxes, shipping and whatever, it would of cost me over $20,000 to put on the road. Thank you to everybody that answered my questions about the car. You guys saw thing about it that I never would of considered looking for. There was no way I would be able to go down there to look at the car myself before I bought so this all worked out for the best. I bid on it because I thought it was a Z Program car. But thanks to you folks, I was set straight. My real quest is a 1967 Sunbeam Tiger Mkll but am having trouble locating an authentic one. The world of the Sunbeam tiger is very seedy. But....if a fully restored Z came my way........

Paul

[Mike B]

But....if a fully restored Z came my way........


What about this other one on eBay? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=018&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=280252225840&rd=1
It is being sold by a well known and highly regarded collector of Z cars, so I am sure it is advertised.

-Mike

[titmouse88]

Mike

I didn't notice that one as I was looking for a 1970. Doesn't' say anything about the under carriage. The bright red is pretty shocking isn't it? My '82 had a red interior but don't remember it being THAT red. Maybe I will look into this one.
Thanks Mike

Paul

[Arne]

Paul, unless you simply must have a '70, you cant go wrong with the white car Mike linked above, or with any of the Zs that particular seller might sell from his collection. If he says it's good, you can trust it to be good. In fact, if it wasn't good, he wouldn't have it.

And yes, take it from those of us who have done it. An un-restored low miles original is much nicer than a restored car. They're only original once.

[titmouse88]

Arne

Thanks. That is what I need, a seller I can trust. When you're bidding sight unseen, you have to hope for a honest seller. I wonder what his reserve is?

Paul

[Arne]

I'd be very surprised if the reserve was less than $15k. It'd be worth every penny of that for a car like that, even here on the West coast.

[hls30.com]

What about this other one on eBay? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=018&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=280252225840&rd=1
It is being sold by a well known and highly regarded collector of Z cars, so I am sure it is advertised.

-Mike

I agree, this guy knows what he has, knows what is wrong(and right) with it, and knows what it is worth. To get some points, meet him at Hooters to pick up the car! ROFL
Seriously, he won't steer you wrong, or overstate a car.
Also finding correct parts for a '72 is easier...other than the sliding ashtray cover....
It really depends on what you whether you enjoy driving a car or wiping it with a diaper-or somewhere in between...
Will

[titmouse88]

Thanks guys. You talked me into it. I have put in the first bid!

Paul

[Carl Beck]

Hello.

I took into account what everybody said here about the Z and asked the seller to withdraw my bid. The auction is now finished and it sold for $16,600. With taxes, shipping and whatever, it would of cost me over $20,000 to put on the road.

Paul

I may not understand - were you outbid anyway - or were you the high bidder at $16,600.0 and then retracted your final bid?

I was thinking that there would be no reason to withdraw your bid, if you were outbid anyway...

FWIW,
Carl B.

[EScanlon]

While I've seen several white cars with Blue interiors, I've never seen a RED interior. Maybe Carl or Chris can atest to the scarcity or validity of the red interior... that may make a difference to someone.

Paul, if your intent is to find a car for it's "collectability" then the 70 is what to look for for many things already mentioned here and in other threads. But if your intent is to get one for the pleasure of driving and owning, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the 71 and later years. A 72 is still "pre-smog" for the most part, and is still in the 240 model.

FWIW
E

[titmouse88]

I went to withdraw my bid but Ebay wouldn't let me. I withdrew before the 12 hour cut-off time but they said it was too close. I emailed the seller and explained my situation. He understood and said it was no problem because he wanted whoever bought the car to be happy about it. I believe before he was going to remove my bids, somebody over bid me. Mine was $16,500 and the winner took it with $16,600. I was up front with him and he got higher than his reserve price. This was my first time ever bidding on Ebay. A little nerve wracking for sure!

PS.Carl, I see your name mentioned in the profile of the seller that I'm bidding on at the moment.

Paul

[titmouse88]

I believe my friend had a '73 and I remember driving it in the late '70's. I remember what a thrill it was to drive. In the mid '80's I bought a 1982 280zx gl. It was probably the most comfortable car I have ever driven but it didn't give me the thrill of driving a pure sports car as the '73 Z did. That's what I want to feel again.

Paul

[Carl Beck]

PS.Carl, I see your name mentioned in the profile of the seller that I'm bidding on at the moment.

Paul

Hi Paul:
Which car is that?

While the 1970 240-Z's were considered the most Collectible, because they were the original clean design, and had a more limited production run; the gap in market prices between the 70-72 240Z's has all but closed.. The condition of the car is now all important. (of course exceptions like the 69 production year cars apply).

Many people, including myself - consider the 1972 Datsun 240-Z as the Best-Of-Breed. Lots of small as well as significant improvements were made, and it didn't suffer from the emissions carb's and hot running that the 73's did. The significant improvement included the then new Type B standard transmission and the use of galvanized sheet metal in areas prone to rust damage.

It is kind of like the Mid-Year Corvettes. You either have a 63 Split Window - or you have a 67 model..

FWIW,
Carl B.

[Mike B]

I wonder what his reserve is?

Paul

The seller listed the same car last week with a starting bid of $19.5K (with a reserve higher than that) and a BIN of $28.5K. He probably dropped the reserve some for this listing, but I would guess not by a lot. If you are looking for a very high quality car it won't be cheap.

While I've seen several white cars with Blue interiors, I've never seen a RED interior. Maybe Carl or Chris can atest to the scarcity or validity of the red interior... that may make a difference to someone.


EScanlon, the red interior was available with white and silver cars in 1972 and with white cars in 1973. The color of the red on this car seems brighter than others I have seen, but it may just be the flash from the camera or my monitor setting or something. I agree with Carl that excellent quality 1971 and 1972 cars are still very collectable.

-Mike

-Mike

[26th-Z]

While I've seen several white cars with Blue interiors, I've never seen a RED interior. Maybe Carl or Chris can atest to the scarcity or validity of the red interior... that may make a difference to someone.

Paul, if your intent is to find a car for it's "collectability" then the 70 is what to look for for many things already mentioned here and in other threads. But if your intent is to get one for the pleasure of driving and owning, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the 71 and later years. A 72 is still "pre-smog" for the most part, and is still in the 240 model.

FWIW
E

I know this car and depending on whom I'm trying to impress, I either know or don't know the seller! Very nice car in superb condition. The only two white cars with red interiors I have seen were in this collection. You can't go wrong. In this situation, I would stress getting on an airplane and flying down to see the car because you want to see the collection also.

[Carl Beck]

The only two white cars with red interiors I have seen were in this collection.

Chris - ????? OK - so I changed the seats in mine...:stupid:

The White 72 with 16K miles in Atlanta

FWIW
Carl B.

[JoelH]

I'd be very surprised if the reserve was less than $15k. It'd be worth every penny of that for a car like that, even here on the West coast.

A few months ago when I was shopping for my Z, I was offered this car for a good bit north of that amount. The guy seems to really love Z's and has some nice ones. Th red interior is nice. I'd say my favorite color combos would be the blue with white interior and green with butterscotch.

From what he said then quite a bit of work went into restoring the car.

[26th-Z]

I thought your car had a blue interior! I must have been doing drugs when I said only two red interiors. Now I can think of three or more. The one with the red pinstripes, this one on eBay, and the VZ. Did the Arizona car have a red interior?

Some time ago, I took this picture and photoshopped it. It's one of the screen saver slide show on my computer. I took the park bench out and cropped it closer.

[DougN]

Chris, is the one with pinstripes you are counting the one that Randy has here in ATL? if not, add another red interior/white exterior car to your list! Also, Eddie Radatz's driver car has a red interior - not sure what the original exterior color is, but it is black now (certainly not the original color).

I would be surprised to see the white/red car on eBay sell for less than $25K, the seller definately knows what he has and is not going to give it away for anything less than full value.

[hls30.com]

I know this car and depending on whom I'm trying to impress, I either know or don't know the seller!. .

Note:
Don't take Chris with you and the seller to Hooters if he tells you with "I don't know the seller".ROFL

Will

[lonetreesteve]

Looks like the sale fell through and the car was relisted:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trkparms=tab%3DWatching&viewitem=&item=260276233283&_trksid=p3907.m32

[hls30.com]

I asked the seller several question...no reply, and I notice no questions/answers posted on ebay...Seems like there are things he doesn't want everyone to know...is anyone shocked?
Will

[lonetreesteve]

Auction ended and it sold for $18,100.00.

[BRE-240Z]

It's a nice-enough looking car, but I don't like the way it was presented. It will be interesting to see if the car is listed again, due to the high bidder getting a look at the car and then feeling the same way.

[sblake01]

I would imagine that the winning bidder, with a name like bigtexclassics and a feedback profile of 1, only bought it to sell it.

[BRE-240Z]

Perhaps. Although anytime you see a 'new' eBay account as a high bidder on a big-ticket item, it can easily indicate that someone is shilling the auction, too.

No evidence to that effect, of course, but hey....it happens.