Interested in the Pinks Z: Want the motor? Details within...

[naviathan]

http://album.hybridz.org/data/638/DSC08000_copy.jpg

Alright, were going to do a raffle for the longblock that will go into the Pinks car.

We've decided to do this as such, we will sell tickets @ $26 per ticket, that way it should be w/ in everyones budget to a degree. We must sell a minimum of 275 tickets. We'll cap sales at 325 tickets or 5 days after the 275 mark has been broken, whichever occurs 1st.

In buying these raffle tickets you will be helping fund the pinks build so that we can complete the car, and bring the most competitive S30/L block to pinks that is presently possible!

We cannot talk specifics of the motor on unsecured forums, but it will be safe to say that even if you bought $1000 in raffle tickets, you'd still be making out like a bandit if you won...

What i will say is this, 7.79:1 CR motor, so silly amounts of boost, forged parts, coatings, and a lightened/balanced assembly. Fast and strong...

That being said, i want it to be abundantly clear in how this will work, this is a raffle for the complete longblock from valve cover to oil pan out of the Pinks car engine bay. In this raffle you will be bidding on the motor we will be racing in the actual car, this is a show based around the premiss of gambling. That being said the tickets being sold in this raffle, are being sold with the known factor that the raffle will only go through in full, if we win the race, if we do not win we are at the mercy of the competitors. I want that to be abundandtly clear to ANYONE who intends on purchasing tickets.

If you purchase a ticket, and are the winner of the raffle, you would be asked not to publish anything about it until AFTER the show airs. Meaning if you intend to get on other forums and brag about having the Pinks motor, put it on ebay, talk about it in a blog, whatever... we'd ask that you wait until the episode has aired.

The drawing for the raffle would be done once we have returned home, we would either do a live webchat, or notify the winner via e-mail, or if the board see's fit, i'm considering trying to get Rich to draw the ticket right there on air, then leave everyone in suspense until the show airs. The winner will be responsible for getting the engine to there doorstep, we'll work w/ shippers and all that, but the fee's involved are on the shoulders of the winner. Tickets would be awarded in numerical order as they are claimed.

This all having been said, we will begin taking ticket purchases now.

If you want to purchase a ticket:
We will be accepting paypal, cash, cashiers check, etc... the sooner your payment, the sooner you have secured a ticket basically.

If paying by paypal:
- Paypal to GuyStrtRcr18@hotmail.com
- Include your board name, and what board you are from in the additional information box! Can't keep track of screen names if we don't have yours!
- Include your home address.

[74260zt]

Cool........ I'll take two tickets. Come on guys, help out the Pinks build so we can stomp some a$$ at the race.

Pick yourself up a couple tickets today and help out the cause, and maybe win yourself a kicka$$ motor....

[naviathan]

38 views and on responce? Come on lets get this project done and show the nation what Z can do!

[naviathan]

Ok here it is...Crunch time. The Pinks Z is on it's way to FL for dial in and final tuning before the race. THEY NEED AS MUCH SUPPORT AS THEY CAN GET!!! We still need to sell more raffle tickets and and anyone that can donate please do so! Help them show the nation what a well built Z Car can do! Support the community by supporting the Pinks Z!

[sblake01]

I really don't, and apparently not many others here, see how supporting the "Pinks Z" supports the Z community. Maybe the 'Cremmenga' or the 'CRider1998' types but not the average person here.

[naviathan]

You don't see how it supports the community? So putting a Z Car on national television on a very popular show doesn't give the community more visability? Seeing a car similar to the one some guy in BFE has in his barn on television racing, might just be the driving force to bring that old Z out of the barn and get involved with it. The more people that get into the restorations and build ups, the more demand there is for parts which brings about lower prices and more availability for the rest of us.

[sblake01]

I'm not here to argue; I just gave my opinion as to why there's been so little response to this thread. Hybrid Z, or similar sites might appreciate it more. Again JMO.

[MikeW]

My first thought was what they will do with the money when they don't come anywhere close to selling 275 tickets? Refunds?

[Marty Rogan]

It might help if they gave a fuller explanation of who they are and what they are trying to accomplish, along withthe refund thing.

I for one have never heard of Pinks Z.

Plus, we are being asked to give money for a complete unknown engine? How would we know if these guys know what they are doing?

Marty

[26th-Z]

I, too, was curious about this thread as today is the first I have seen the subject on our site. On behalf of Jeremy, I'll fill you all in as little as I know and ask a question of Jeremy at the same time.

"Pinks" is a TV show on Speed Channel that pits two braggarts against each other in a "winner takes all" race with the winner getting to keep the looser's car. The one episode I saw was between two drag bikes - very nice drag bikes - $20,000 drag bikes. I find it hard to believe that someone would go on TV for nothing, just to bet their ride for a race. But that's the premise.

From what I know, the guys over at "Hybred-Z" decided to build a car for Pinks. They started their own sub-forum, went out and raised sponsorship money, hired an ace driver, and built this fire breathing monster of a Z. Frankly, I'm proud of them.

So they are going to win Pinks and some lucky Z freak is going to win the raffle and the engine. At least, that's the premis. If they loose or decide to not give the engine away, no one can do anything about the money they spent on their raffel ticket.

So the real bottom line is; "Yous pays yo monies an yous takes yo chances". I'm planning on buying the DVD of the show and selling bootlegs on eBay.

[Marty Rogan]

Thanks for clearing that up for me Chris. "It's a cable thing". I don't get cable, so that makes sense. I would rather spend money on my Z, than cable, LOL!

If they lose, it would be pretty tough to follow through on their raffle commitment. I would think the winner would want the engine too!

Marty

[26th-Z]

Yea, me too, Marty. I guess you would be interested in my bootleg DVD of the show?LOL

But while I mention it, check out Speed's site. They sell their broadcasts of races on DVD for cheap. I bought a copy of the SCCA Pro Touring race at Sebring because it has a 1-1/2 second scan of the crowd and there I am, sitting on the hill, waving to the camera.

[LanceM]

The more people that get into the restorations and build ups, the more demand there is for parts which brings about lower prices and more availability for the rest of us.

It's be 35 years or so since I was in an economics class, but doesn't that run contrary to the principle behind price and demand?

[Arne]

It's be 35 years or so since I was in an economics class, but doesn't that run contrary to the principle behind price and demand?If the increased demand prompts new suppliers or increased production, than supply goes up and price comes down.

But if the demand goes up without new suppliers or increased production from existing suppliers, prices go up as supply gets tight.

The original poster is obviously assuming that if demand goes up, supply will increase to match. Reminds me of trickle-down economics. It could happen that way, but it could backfire too.

[SJGREEN71]

I must admit I was baffled by the original post. Thanks to others who filled in the back story. I assume this "Pinks" thing is a 1/4 mile kind of thing, while I am more of a "how does this thing handle in a blind corner on a mountain road" kind of guy. I wish these Pinks guys all the best, but I have no idea what I would do with a fire breathing 1/4 mile Z motor even if it was given to me for free. I think I'll pass on the raffle.

[naviathan]

That's it! Thank you 26th-Z for clearing that up for me. I apologize that the ad wasn't very clear, but that's what we were given to advertise with. Let me just say it's an incredible car and win or loose I think it's a worth while gamble. Really it's right up there with buying a bunch of lottery tickets. Thanks to those that have donated or bought a raffle ticket.

[26th-Z]

I wish you guys the greatest of good fortune, Naviathan. I really meant it when I said I was proud of you for doing what you are doing. You all are truely car guys and your spirit is commendable. I hope you kick ass and make the Z community proud. But no matter; I am astonished with your project and even though it may not be my own cup of tea, I recognize your enthusiasm and willingness to accomplish rather than talk. Please let us know when the show is aired. I will make appropriate efforts to watch.

Chris

[naviathan]

Will do, Chris, thanks for the support!

[gator]

call me stupid .. but dont you lose the car of you lose the race ? Who would keep the money?

[Gav240z]

Ok I have a few questions.
How much are the raffle tickets?
If you win the raffle and your O/S will you ship the motor to the country of choice?
Will it be a turbo or non-turbo L-series?

All the best!

[John Coffey]

How much are the raffle tickets?

$26

If you win the raffle and your O/S will you ship the motor to the country of choice?

Don't know.

Will it be a turbo or non-turbo L-series?

Turbo.

[John Coffey]

call me stupid .. but dont you lose the car of you lose the race ? Who would keep the money?

For those that haven't seen the PINKS! show, yes if you lose, you lose the car. Its gone. The folks that have invested $26 in the raffle have lost their $26. The sponsors (like me) who have invested more have lost their investment. The car builders, who have by far invested the most, lose the car and their 6 weeks of hard work and have to drive 18 hours back to Houston with an empty trailer behind their truck.

Its a big gamble and if you're not comfortable gambling $26, please don't do it.

That being said, i want it to be abundantly clear in how this will work, this is a raffle for the complete longblock from valve cover to oil pan out of the Pinks car engine bay. In this raffle you will be bidding on the motor we will be racing in the actual car, this is a show based around the premiss of gambling. That being said the tickets being sold in this raffle, are being sold with the known factor that the raffle will only go through in full, if we win the race, if we do not win we are at the mercy of the competitors. I want that to be abundandtly clear to ANYONE who intends on purchasing tickets.

[jmark]

When will this episode air?

[26th-Z]

Sorry, I just now thought to post the web site :stupid: :stupid: :stupid:

[John Coffey]

I don't know when the episode will air, maybe in 2 months time.

[joefarnarkler]

Sorry, I just now thought to post the web site :stupid: :stupid: :stupid:


Really? Where is it?

[Gav240z]

Ok when do raffle entries close?
I think I'm willing to take a punt, gotta be in it to win it ;)

[Carl Beck]

Alright, were going to do a raffle...snipped.....
......
That being said, i want it to be abundantly clear in how this will work, this is a raffle for the complete longblock from valve cover to oil pan out of the Pinks car engine bay. In this raffle you will be bidding on the motor we will be racing in the actual car, ....snipped........

So you win ONLY the Long Block?

What happens to the rest of the engine? Intake,Fuel Injection System, Engine Management System, Turbo, Turbo Exhaust System, Intercoolers, Various sensors and valves, Fan's etc etc etc - will they be available for Sale in case someone wants to buy the entire - complete - set up?

thanks,
Carl

Carl Beck
Clearwater, FL USA
http://ZHome.com

[gator]

good question ..

[26th-Z]

http://www.pinks.tv/

You guys crack me up. "Complete long block... from valve cover to oil pan". Reed the fist post an U will no the Code.

[Carl Beck]

http://www.pinks.tv/

You guys crack me up. "Complete long block... from valve cover to oil pan". Reed the fist post an U will no the Code.

Hi Chris:
I believe I did read the first Post - carefully and completely. A "long block" is not a complete running engine. A long block does not contain, nor include the many items I ask about. Nor does the term "motor" more fully define what's being offered.

Call your local Nissan Dealer (or any source that sells engines) and ask them exactly what you get if you order a "short block" or a "long block". I simply noted that naviathan specifically used the term "long block" as well as qualified it by saying from the Valve Cover to the Oil Pan - and since he seems to be involved in the process of building the engine - I felt that he certainly knew the difference between a long block and a complete running engine; other wise he would have said something to the effect that you get the complete engine along with all hardware necessary to install and run it in your Z.

In terms of value - the long block would account for about 35% of the total cost... If they are offering the complete engine as set up, running and raced... the value of the tickets would be much higher as long as the price of the tickets stays the same.

Just didn't want there to be any misunderstanding, especially since naviathan wanted to make it abundantly clear..


FWIW,
Carl

[naviathan]

Actually I'm simply involved helping the guys who were building it get the word out. I wish I could have been there helping them get things done. I'll ask if they're still accepting raffle tickets even though the race is over.

[naviathan]

Yes, the Pinks team is still accepting purchases for the raffle tickets. The engine is a go for being raffled off. There's also thoughts rolling around about selling off other parts of the car to raise more money to cover the costs of the trip and everything. So, for all those interested in the Pinks Long block, the only thing we're waiting on is more tickets to sell.

http://album.hybridz.org/data/638/Pinks_Z_1.jpg

[Marty Rogan]

If the engine is available, then they must have won the race? since it's over, how about some details about the engine. People would be more inclined to buy tickets if they knew what they were getting.

Marty

[sblake01]

What kind of car did it beat?

[e_racer1999]

CONGRATS on the win! seriously thinking about purchasing a raffle ticket....

[naviathan]

Details on the engine are below. The race is over and I can't give any details as to the outcome, but yes they do have the car. We have to wait until after the show airs to say what happened.

Pink's Long Block Raffle:

P90 head
Rusch motorsports P&P
Rusch motorsports 3 angle valvejob
All ports cleaned/repaired on all threads
New valvestem seals
Isky Cam
Isky valvetrain

Block:
F54/P90 purchase
AZ Car forged pistons
ARP Head Studs
ARP Main Studs
ARP Rod Bolts
Toga HV oilpump
HKS 2MM headgasket
Clevitte 77 bearings through out
All new freeze plugs
Ceramic coatings by PolyDyn
Cryotreatment 240z rods
Polished 240z rods
Anti-friction coatings by PolyDyn
Machine work to go .040 for the AZC pistons
Machine work for balancing/blueprint of entire rotating assembly
Machine work for assembly of shortblock
New timing kit
New water pump
Gasketing through out
New front and rear mains

[naviathan]

I can't say whether we won or lost. Not until it airs which should be sometime in the next month or so.

[jmark]

I can't say whether we won or lost. Not until it airs which should be sometime in the next month or so. Let us know so we don't miss it. If they have the car it is a good sign!! :D

[jmark]

Yes, the Pinks team is still accepting purchases for the raffle tickets. The engine is a go for being raffled off. There's also thoughts rolling around about selling off other parts of the car to raise more money to cover the costs of the trip and everything. So, for all those interested in the Pinks Long block, the only thing we're waiting on is more tickets to sell.

http://album.hybridz.org/data/638/Pinks_Z_1.jpgHow about selling some of the Tshirts?

[naviathan]

No problem, I'll post the date as soon as we find out.

[naviathan]

I'll see what they say about the T-Shirts.

[naviathan]

QUOTE From Garrett (part of Team HybridZ):
Ours was the first episode filmed for the 3rd season i believe. The 3rd season will begin airing in July. So I'm not sure if we will be the first one shown or not . . .

[MikeW]

If they have the car it is a good sign!! :D

Unless the engine blew up, they lost the race, and the other team didn't even want the car. ROFL

[naviathan]

The engine didn't blow.

[jmark]

What did the Z run against?

[hls30.com]

Ah, what gets worked out in the minutes before possably loosing your car...

"Can we agree to swap cars back no matter who wins or looses?"
"I will if you will."
"Just remember we can't do it while the cameras are rolling, or infront of these guys..."

Really, who cares if there is a $26 chance for a running hiperformance turbocharged engine, I'm in!

Will

[naviathan]

I can't say at the moment. I guess there was a non-disclosure agreement to keep the details of the show in the dark until it airs.

[naviathan]

Ok, check THIS (http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=111013) out for the HybridZ Team shirts. I guess they're still taking orders on them.

[hls30.com]

I hope there is a full disclosure ready for the moment it airs-interesting stuff!
Will

[jmark]

Ok, check THIS (http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=111013) out for the HybridZ Team shirts. I guess they're still taking orders on them.Let us know if they are still available.

[naviathan]

They are still taking orders. I think how it works is they take orders and after so many are requested they put the order in, have them printed and when they arrive they divy it out and ship them to the respective requestees. Last time I think took a week for everything to go out.

[jmark]

They are still taking orders. I think how it works is they take orders and after so many are requested they put the order in, have them printed and when they arrive they divy it out and ship them to the respective requestees. Last time I think took a week for everything to go out.Money sent via Paypal for 1 shirt.

[naviathan]

We're really close on the tickets. Just a few more and the raffle will start! Pick up a couple more tickets and increase your chances to win!

[jmark]

I was watching Pinks last night and they showed an advertisement for the new season beginning in July and I saw a few clips of the Z team on it.

[TomoHawk]

Still wondering what lame thing they were up against. Probably a blown SuperStock Camaro that had the engine blow upon the last run, and the Z ran out of gas on the second run because the gas gauge was 1/4 tank off...LOL

I'd like to see some REAL drag cars like a '65 Merc Comet 390 (dual quads) and a Honda with an engine "blown-supercharged" by 4-18 inch subwoofers powered by a 25,000 Watt stereo (almost 1 PSI!!) & dual PSP. ROFL

tyvfm

[sblake01]

Wasn't even worth watching the '1979' Datsun 280Z lose.