List of suitable parts from other makes

[drunkenmaster]

Hi Guys,

I was hoping to develop some sort of definitive list of parts easily used from other makes of cars to upgrade perished or out of date Z systems (not including motors)

I have noticed a lot of mention with various mazda and honda parts, so if we coallate all this info in one spot I think it will be a very useful resource.

Items that spring to mind are:

Radiators
Air Conditioning Systems
Heater Assemblies
Blower motors
Power steering racks
Fuel tanks

Feel free to add more based on your own experience

Please try to be MAKE, MODEL and YEAR specific and include a short summary of what modifications if any are required.

Thanks guys.

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THE LIST SO FAR:

Toyota Hilux Brake calipers (year?)

V8 Holden Statesman Radiator (year?) - Requires redrilling tabs, bottom hose is on opposite side

1984 Nissan Pintara Top Radiator hose interchangeable with lower 240Z hose. Light trimming required.

Datsun 1600 front door handles interchangeable. Exact likeness still in question.

Mack Truck 54mt314dp88 speedo cable for 240Z.

280ZX Radiator for 240Z/260Z. Use bottom mounting holes and redrill top mounting holes to ensure bonnet clearance. NOTE: hangs a bit lower than standard.

[MikeW]

Toyota brake calipers

[Fun_in_my_z]

Dang it Mike thats what i was going to say!ROFL

Switches from 76 datsun trucks will change with a 240.

[drunkenmaster]

Nice start guys,

I'm, just thinking perhaps we should be year, make and model specific.

As far as toyota brakes, I have seen hilux front calipers used, unsure of year.

[Bambikiller240]

This is not meant to discourage you guys but....................This idea has been tossed around several times and...........

It is not as easy as it might sound. Without information as to the whole replacement process for each item mentioned, people can be mislead to think that these items are "plug and play" which is not always the case.

Various years of Z car have diferent electrical connectors in places like guages, relays, blower motors, wiper motors etc. For Toyota Calipers, trimming of dust sheilds is necessary, sometimes the wheels on a person's car do not have room for the calipers to fit properly, bridge tubes need to be tweaked to use these calipers as well.

What is considered a viable swap for one person is not for another person who doesn't have knowledge or skills to make the modifications that may be necessary.

My opinion is that Tech Articles on SPECIFIC swaps or upgrades with SPECIFIC information to the job at hand are far more valuable than a simple list of parts that "someone" says worked for them (without data on what was required to make it work), or something that an inexperienced person thinks will work.


Hate to have to put it this way, but remember, we are on the internet. There is no IQ test required to log on and spout off about anything. Experience is what separates the B.S. from the Nuggets of Gold.


Just my $.02

[W.A.ZED]

I Believe you can use a radiator out of a holden statesman and it will fit quite well (tank ports are in the right place etc). Not sure which model statesman, will try and get further details and post them.

[drunkenmaster]

yes, Cuong is using one of those, bottom outlet is on the opposite side I beleive and mounting tabs line up but need new holes drilled.

As far as viability of theis whole endevour is concerned, lets see where it goes. I think a certain level of intelligence is required for anything you do, perhaps if we stick to things that have actually been done and worked, it may be better?

[Bambikiller240]

Originally posted by drunkenmaster
As far as viability of theis whole endevour is concerned, lets see where it goes. I think a certain level of intelligence is required for anything you do, perhaps if we stick to things that have actually been done and worked, it may be better?

Agreed, It would also help if any mods required to effect the swap be stated. RHD, LHD, year, & model of car, Part Numbers etc are all bits of useful info. i.e. just saying "a camaro radiator will work" doesn't really help much. know what I mean? Details!

[Fun_in_my_z]

yeah what Carl said!

[halz]

Bottom radiator hose for a 240 (the expensive one!) can be replaced with a 1984 Nissan Pintara top hose...you just need to cut a few inches off the length but otherwise the bends and diameter are perfect.

[Bambikiller240]

What year(s) Pintara? Any idea what a Pintara is called in the US?

I wonder why the 70-73 240Z lower hose is so expensive for you guys in OZ?

In the USA this hose is only $12.77 at Motorsport Auto. The 240Z lower hose is the cheapest lower Radiator hose of all Z's.

The 260Z lower hose is $15.06 and the 280Z lower hose is $15.95

All in USD, of course.

[halz]

Here's a Pintara... not sure if you guys got it ? I said 1984 but I guess it wouldn't hurt to check other year models....

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=45571&item=2481840416&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

[Bambikiller240]

Originally posted by halz
Here's a Pintara... not sure if you guys got it ? I said 1984 but I guess it wouldn't hurt to check other year models....


:stupid: Eye failure, my apologies.

[xbox]

i'm sure everyone knows this one, a oil filter for a 302 or 5.0 ford small block, quite a bit larger than the nissan filter I know one from a 91 ford thunderbird 5.0 works

[HKSZ]

Front door handle Datsun 1600 fits Zed


ie ask wrecker for a $5 1600 handle or $40 Zed sports car handle :stupid:

[halz]

Datsun 120Y door handle also fits - you can buy a whole 120y for about $5

[Alfadog]

ROFL ROFL

Are the handles *exactly* the same? Or will they just fit right?

[Gee]

I've held them up next to each other. They are NOT the same.
Has anyone actually used 1600 / 120Y / 180B handles, or has this just stemmed from the fact that they look externally similar?

[Bambikiller240]

Originally posted by Gee
I've held them up next to each other. They are NOT the same.
Has anyone actually used 1600 / 120Y / 180B handles, or has this just stemmed from the fact that they look externally similar?


:tapemouth :tapemouth :tapemouth

[ChrisA]

Mack Truck part number 54mt314dp88 speedo cable--running right now on my 72 Z. $14.75 current price. Worked for last 4 years. Couldnt believe it mated to speedo head and drive on tranny.

FWIW

Chris


P.S. Its 7.3 feet long but you can get shorter ones.

[HKSZ]

1600 handles definately fit, I've used them on my 240 and early 260's.
I know 180b don't and wouldn't think 120y do even if they all have the same form.

Just looked up the part #'s
1600 is a different # but does fit the early zeds 240z,260z &260z 2+2 up to JUL '76 which all share the same part #'s

From AUG '76 the part #'s change as did the door frames.
:ermm:


Steve

[Gee]

what are you saying Bambi?
:classic:
The differences between 1600 handles and zed handles was pointed out to me by a "reputable" person associated with zeds in Melbourne some years ago. It was a long time ago, but I seem to remember that the length + rear mounts were different. I'm not saying they don't fit, it was just pointed out to me that they are different. Now maybe there were more than 1 type of 1600 (etc) handle? I'm sure not a 510 expert.. My call was to ask if anyone has actually done the swap, or is it just heresay based on the fact that the handles look similar?

I've heard that 280zx radiators fit in 240's - but you have to file out the holes to get them in. The benefit is that the ZX has more cores and hence better cooling capacity.

[Gee]

Two people typing at the same time :classic:
If that's true - I'll be raiding my mates 1600 parts stash for some better handles, mine are stuffed!! Nice one HKSZ..

[kmack]

Originally posted by Gee
I've heard that 280zx radiators fit in 240's - but you have to file out the holes to get them in. The benefit is that the ZX has more cores and hence better cooling capacity.

I'm currently running a 280ZX radiator ('82 to be specific, but they're all the same) in my 240Z. Only two mods were required.

Only two of the mounting tabs will line up: either the top two or the bottom two. If you line up the top two, then the top of the radiator will hit the hood when it is shut. Line up the bottom two mounting holes, then drill new holes for the top two mounting tabs. Only other thing is you have to get a new lower hose for a 280Z or 280ZX. The lower hose connection on the radiator comes out straight on the ZX, unlike the 240Z where it bends upward. Thus, you need a slightly longer hose with a bend on the end.

Benefit: additional cooling core (3 vs. 2) and overall larger cooling capacity. Coupled with an OEM thermostat (larger opening) my 240 now runs cooler than ever before even at sustained high speeds in the hot Texas summer heat!

That enough description for you Bambi? :classic: LOL :classic: LOL

[ChrisA]

Originally posted by kmack
I'm currently running a 280ZX radiator ('82 to be specific, but they're all the same) in my 240Z. Only two mods were required.


Hey kmack, does that radiator hang down below the beam where the horns mount? Just curious as I almost did this conversion.

Thanks,

Chris

[kmack]

Yes, it hangs down by about 2-1/2". That's the down side. With a stock valance in place, you can see the bottom of the radiator and you have to be careful about not parking up close to concrete parking stops or curbs. If you have an airdam, it would hide the radiator.

[ChrisA]

Thanks kmack, doesnt sound too bad.

Chris

[1971rb26dett]

Any oversized valves perhaps??

[e_racer1999]

Originally posted by Bambikiller240
Any idea what a Pintara is called in the US?
just by looking at it it kinda resembled a stanze maybe?? i dunno, just guessin..

[ChrisA]

Carl working on his wipers today reminded me of a "suitable part from other makes" part on my car.

Western Star truck wiper washer pump. #62912-3401. Fits the stock resevoir and requires minor electrical mods. For those of you that arent concerned with originality this part has worked well for me.

Chris

[Bambikiller240]

Western Star truck wiper washer pump. #62912-3401. Fits the stock resevoir and requires minor electrical mods. For those of you that arent concerned with originality this part has worked well for me.

Chris

You can also get a Trico #11-601, which is labeled as a Honda replacement pump, it is exactly the same pump as the stock '70 - '73 windshield washer pump. The one exception is the connections, but if you have your old pump you'll see that the BLK wire (neg) has a FEMALE connector, and the Trico 11-601 has a MALE connector. It takes about 2 minutes to solder the correct type of connector onto the new pump.

(Thanks Chris, I've added your info to my database of useful information.)

[240Zdragon72]

Yes, it hangs down by about 2-1/2". That's the down side. With a stock valance in place, you can see the bottom of the radiator and you have to be careful about not parking up close to concrete parking stops or curbs.

Wish I had known this earlyer. I had to hunt down a new/ used drain plug because I snaped the old one in two. The other half was still in the radiator. This really sucked. :tapemouth:

[kmack]

Western Star truck wiper washer pump. #62912-3401. Fits the stock resevoir and requires minor electrical mods.
This is also assuming that your reservoir is still in good enough shape to handle prying the old pump out and squeezing a new one back in. I've been through 2 already where the plastic was too brittle and it crumbled in my hand! :dead:

[abas]

This is also assuming that your reservoir is still in good enough shape to handle prying the old pump out and squeezing a new one back in. I've been through 2 already where the plastic was too brittle and it crumbled in my hand! :dead:

Presumably caused by the Texas heat? In cooler climes mine 'seem' to be OK after 30+years.

[kmack]

Presumably caused by the Texas heat? In cooler climes mine 'seem' to be OK after 30+years.
Yes, the "wonderful" Texas heat ( :stupid: ) can do strange things to plastic. From turning it into a fragile, brittle little piece of no longer usable car-art, to actually stretching it and causing longe hair-line cracks. It doesn't help that the reservoirs were made kind of thin to begin with.

[Gav240z]

Nissan bluebird not sure exact years but early 80's type has an electronic fuel pump which is good for a carb'd Z. pumps between 3-4 PSI :).